The same Club, just better...

With respect Rochelle, you are just avoiding the question.

Nobody expects to be given the finalised costs at this stage. Many of us believe that it is perfectly reasonable to have an estimate (or budget) of the anticipated costs together with an indication of the possible financial benefit to the Club. I find it difficult to believe that these figures are not available.

So, may I ask again for these figures to be provided? - or does the management of the Club think we should be not be told? 

Probably Commercially Sensitive 

A perusal of the latest Handbook will provide the information on the decline of the network compared with the previous issue in stark figures. I fear that, after the latest issues with the website, the continued exodus of CL's will accelerate.

I am a critic of the rebranding exercise, both the end result and also the way in which it has been carried out with no direct reference to the membership. It has basically been presented as a 'fait accompli' like it or lump it situation and I personally as a member in the fifth decade of continuous membership feel insulted and disappointed that the executive felt that they could freely act in this undemocratic way.

We are paying for all this and even now are not being told the budgeted cost and I along with VolvoV70 would like to formally request this information is made available to members.

A petition has been started to "Re-instate the Caravan Club Name and Red Pennant Logo" at <www.petitions24.com> ,  like me if you feel strongly about this matter visit this petition and sign up.

Like Cyberyacht we joined the caravan club all those years ago for the better quality Club sites and CL network which seems to now be in decline. 

The new logo reminded me of one used for an ice cream maker so does this mean that we can now buy Walls ice cream at all the club sites?

I think that there is a problem with your keyboard ET as it has displayed the word sensitive, when surely you must have typed embarrassing.

The Club is not listed on the stock exchange, its shares aren't traded so the information isn't really commercially sensitive, unless a member was to say how much and not renew their subscription.

Wouldn't want 'The Other Club's' members laughing up their sleeves would we? 

'Come on ,stop all this negativity , ok ,it's a name change ,but does it stop us getting out there and having fun ??????'

It is NOT just a name change, how naïve !  It has been the best kept secret I have ever encountered, a gross insult to members, To tell us our committee representatives agreed it - well, who is my committee representative ?   When did s/he ask my opinion which s/he is supposed to be representing ? With publications, websites, advertising, logos, the magazine, the directory, signage, uniforms, exhibition stands,, stationary, liaison with service providers like insurance, badges, rally flags, demo vehicles, all the promotional gadgets... it will already have cost OUR club an absolute fortune. Staff hours, meetings, negotiations, design experiments etc.  All done in deceitful secrecy - didn't you trust us to say yes, CC ?  I want a FULL account of the costs of this and the directors should hang their heads in shame. Their arrogance is unheard of in terms of patronising their MEMBERS  - because, make no mistake, it is OUR club, not theirs.  When the very flawed new website was launched did they think to include us in their secret plans, new directory already published and hidden from our eyes ? I have no problem with modernising.  Motorhomes - of course we welcome you.  It is the deceit I am angry at.

I notice Rochelle keeps using the term 'we think'.  Who is 'we' ?  It is certainly not 'US' the members.

So while you are throwing your toys out the pram I am busy planning my next breaks away ,not bothered what they call the "club" as long as there are sites to book ,sorry but I don't see it as my club ,but just an organisation to book some holidays with (along with other organisations)  

Motorhomes...I thought we were always welcome