The same Club, just better...

Nigel, sadly you are right. It's no longer a Club for members but a business. What really upsets me is the waste of money, loss of identity and heritage, let alone a total disregard of members by the so called management. They really couldn't care less, just a bunch of typical corporate parasites! Sorry but I work with people like them and I really hoped our hobby wouldn't go in this direction... Thanks Granville😩

You belong to a membership organisation. You don't own a share of the Club and have no rights to the profits the Club may realise. Your rights are limited to electing the Board members on an annual basis to represent the interest of the organisation.

'we ARE the club' 

no... you are a paid up member of a membership organisation. You have no rights as such to determine how the Club is run. You are limited to elect a Board to represent the interests of the organisation but that is as far as your rights as a paid up member extend

Totally agree you couldn't have put this better. Totally disgusted, what a waste of money. Will the Club tell us how much it is costing? So much for the members I feel we are being treated with utter contempt.

Oh really since when Rochelle??? Maybe you could call me to explain? 07931 368538. I am furious at this total disregard to members. We weren't consulted about this, the logo is awful and how much is it costing? No one seems to want to talk about this do they??? As a member for over 20 years (10334981) and my father from 1973 to 2014 I think I deserve some answers!

You know I meant that I am not and never will be a customer. 

Whereas the old title covered trailer caravans and motor caravans quite succinctly, will we see another rebranding soon to finally include trailer tents, which are accepted on club sites?? They are mentioned in the discussions but are not included in the new logo. When we are all driving  our small electric cars, this will be the only thing we can tow.

I am having difficulty reading all of the post I put on here and neither can I see your reply to my questions. Happy with 'an idiots' reply but as an IT literate background I would like to hear this is just a blip and just me. As.yoi have seen you have upset a number of members and it should have been predicted what the questions would be and have the answers 'on stock' as they say.

Does anyone else confuse the new logo with the Sikh insignia?

"You know I meant that I am not and never will be a customer"

OK, as the Club doesn't have dividends and as it is operated as a not for profit organisation, technically you are not a customer. As stated above, you and I are paid up members of a membership organisation.

However, in real terms, whether you are buying a pint of milk from reception or settling your site fees on arrival, you are unofficially a customer. The difference being, the profit from your expenditure isn't lining the pockets of directors or shareholders.

There seems to be a misnomer that all members can vote on and dictate the running of the Club on a decision by decision basis, how it invests its profits and how the direction of the Club can be directly influenced. This is simply not the case. Only the Board or Committee  can propose and vote on the operations of the organisation. You have the right to elect the Committee and naturally, you can put yourselves forward to be elected to be on the Commitee and thus influence the running of the organisation. The rights of annual membership extend no further than this.

Well that's us told. I never want or expected to have a say in how every little facet of running the club is handled but with due regard to the history and aims of the club I would have expected to be given prior notice of these changes and an opportunity to cast a vote or two. The new title is still not inclusive, nothing could be so why change? Getting pedantic about when I am a customer misses the point that I am a member of a member's club and not to be confused with the AA or similar. The club needs to remember what it is, and it's founding principles, not go off on an ego trip. And this website is still rubbish especially on an iPad or phone. The skip to the last comment doesn't work so takes a lot of effort to follow a thread.

And what was the significance of a red flag with a horse shoe in It? I see nothing in it linking to todays caravan owners or are the supposed to be preceded by a red flag while on the road as in the early days of Motoring! 

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