Safefill 10Kg

HillClimb replied on 07/04/2016 12:28

Posted on 07/04/2016 12:28

New to caravaning, we've not even got our caravan yet - it is on on order from Elddis. So we've been doing a lot of research, there is a lot of data out there on the internet but I was struggling to find out what size of gas bottles would fit in to the gas locker of our van (which we haven't got yet).

So after a trip to the (not so local) Caravan Accessory shop at Webbs in Reading - (they were brilliant - so... helpful) . They helped by allowing me to take one of their 10kg Safefill bottles over to a Elddis 55x Caravan display model - that has the same structure/footprint as ours. So I can confirm that a 10kg Safefill cylinder will fit in to the gas locker of a Elddis 55x.  (And being refillable then I just need the one cylinder).

Doubtless everyone has there own preferances on Calorlite vs BP GasLight vs Safefill etc etc. For me, I was persuaded by the quantity of LPG fill suppliers listed and the cost-of-ownership. For ease of maths, I simply calculated what the total spend would be  once 30kg of gas has been consumed (initial rental + swaps for 2 cyclinder for BP or Calor)

30kg of Gas:

BPGaslight £238 (two initial rentals + 4 swaps) - (however you can get a refund if your no longer need the cylinders, so reducing the cost of ownership to reflect their residual value then 30kg would cost £213).

Calorlite £172 (two initial rentals + 3 swaps - I assume Calorlite's can also be refunded - but couldn't find how much?)

Purchase of a Single 10kg Safefill cylinder + 30kg of gas = £177

Redoing the math for 60kg; then Gaslight £375; Calorlite £310; Safefill £194

I pondered the 2 Rental Cylinders; 1 runs out; swap to the spare and exchange the empty (at our leisure (i.e. non urgent)) scenario - but a fair comparison for Safefill is: top-up the part full 10kg Safefill before departing; occasionaly check the gauge or look at the visible level and take it for another refill before it runs out (when we happen to be passing somewhere that does LPG refills). 

Hope this info helps others in their research/decision making

Navigateur replied on 02/10/2017 17:21

Posted on 02/10/2017 17:21

When I had a Land Rover running on LPG the only bit of the system that was checked during the MOT was the dual fuel switchover valve, as it was part of the petrol fuel system. That was a few years ago, and things might have changed, but I think Morrisons are on the waffle!

cyberyacht replied on 02/10/2017 19:52

Posted on 02/10/2017 19:52

That's a setback for Merve's campaign although how they differentiate between an LPG fuelled car and a MH topping up his gas I'm not entirely sure. Perhaps we should start a caravanners/motorhomes boycott of Morrisons for fuel AND groceries.

replied on 02/10/2017 19:57

Posted on 02/10/2017 19:57

Morrison's response is not surprising to me

Fysherman replied on 03/10/2017 15:20

Posted on 03/10/2017 15:20

Would be interesting to know exactly with what authority "Tom" speaks ie his full name and position in the organisation.

Wonder what his manager thinks about him replying to a customer as "Tom". Very unprofessional and I suspect he is not far up the food chain. (Joke)

 

 

Fysherman replied on 03/10/2017 17:31

Posted on 03/10/2017 17:31

Possible but I doubt it. These descisions tend to be made upon the balance of overall evidence. Do it wrong and you can set yourself on fire from the Petrol pump.

Would like someone (in a qualified capacity) at Morrisons to explain their position. Not totally convinced "Tom" is that person. 

I understand the forecourt bible (the Red Book) has recently been amended and objections to standalone cylinders fitted with overflow safety systems have been withdrawn. Can anyone confirm this?

hitchglitch replied on 03/10/2017 20:10

Posted on 03/10/2017 20:10

Funny how different countries have entirely different views on safety issues. When we were in New Zealand this year and stopped for Petrol we saw people bringing their gas cylinders in, standing them by the refill pump and helping themselves.

We are fortunate to have a built in LPG tank with level monitor so it is very economic to fill up and no concerns about running out. The only issue for me is that in the 18 months we have had the Motorhome we have probably only used about 4kg of gas! That's in about 12 weeks of continental touring. Of course, we use ACSI sites a lot so electricity is included and we only go to places that are warm. Just back from Italy where we had 4 amps EHU but this was adequate for microwave, kettle and background heating for chilly mornings (but not all together). 

For newcomers I think it is very important to consider the pros and cons of refillable cylinders which have been well presented on this and similar threads. If you use mainly Club sites or ACSI sites abroad then it is difficult to justify refillable cylinders but for CLs, winter touring etc. then they are well worth the investment. 

For anybody buying conventional cylinders then Gaslight is by far the superior product provided you are near to a stockist such as Homebase. They are transparent so you can see the level, are lighter that Calor, have great grab handles and use a clip on connector.

Navigateur replied on 03/10/2017 22:03

Posted on 03/10/2017 22:03

It starts there but is quickly taken over by a pop-up about an iPhone and a synthetic voice.  As there is no "kill" button I take it as spam and close the tab.

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