Safefill 10Kg

HillClimb replied on 07/04/2016 12:28

Posted on 07/04/2016 12:28

New to caravaning, we've not even got our caravan yet - it is on on order from Elddis. So we've been doing a lot of research, there is a lot of data out there on the internet but I was struggling to find out what size of gas bottles would fit in to the gas locker of our van (which we haven't got yet).

So after a trip to the (not so local) Caravan Accessory shop at Webbs in Reading - (they were brilliant - so... helpful) . They helped by allowing me to take one of their 10kg Safefill bottles over to a Elddis 55x Caravan display model - that has the same structure/footprint as ours. So I can confirm that a 10kg Safefill cylinder will fit in to the gas locker of a Elddis 55x.  (And being refillable then I just need the one cylinder).

Doubtless everyone has there own preferances on Calorlite vs BP GasLight vs Safefill etc etc. For me, I was persuaded by the quantity of LPG fill suppliers listed and the cost-of-ownership. For ease of maths, I simply calculated what the total spend would be  once 30kg of gas has been consumed (initial rental + swaps for 2 cyclinder for BP or Calor)

30kg of Gas:

BPGaslight £238 (two initial rentals + 4 swaps) - (however you can get a refund if your no longer need the cylinders, so reducing the cost of ownership to reflect their residual value then 30kg would cost £213).

Calorlite £172 (two initial rentals + 3 swaps - I assume Calorlite's can also be refunded - but couldn't find how much?)

Purchase of a Single 10kg Safefill cylinder + 30kg of gas = £177

Redoing the math for 60kg; then Gaslight £375; Calorlite £310; Safefill £194

I pondered the 2 Rental Cylinders; 1 runs out; swap to the spare and exchange the empty (at our leisure (i.e. non urgent)) scenario - but a fair comparison for Safefill is: top-up the part full 10kg Safefill before departing; occasionaly check the gauge or look at the visible level and take it for another refill before it runs out (when we happen to be passing somewhere that does LPG refills). 

Hope this info helps others in their research/decision making

ocsid replied on 14/05/2016 12:53

Posted on 14/05/2016 12:53

 

I am a little mystified by your statement "inherent dangers of toppling over" as the cyliner is locked onto the hose dispensing the gas?  Have you seen this happen with a Safefill cylinder?

It seems very obvious that some people have limited knowledge of refilling Safefill cylinders as the same devices are used  to refill cars and Gaslow bottles.  There is no difference.

TBH are a green eyed monsters scaremongering?  Laughing

You are quite right in that some have very limited knowledge of  refilling Safefill cylinders; the statements in this quoted post exemplifies a lack of understanding of them and the differences between them and fixed installations. That absolutely fundemental point, one type is fixed.

Tirril replied on 14/05/2016 21:03

Posted on 14/05/2016 21:03

I don't know how a Safefill would topple over whilst filling -  it has a wide enough base and having filled my 10 kg on the ground it is perfectly stable. The dispensing nozel is tightly clamped during the filling procedure (designed that way obviously as otherwise there would be gas escaping).  Once you try it and see how simply the procedure is it just becomes second nature like filling your car. In fact I would say that putting petrol into a car carries more risk as there is more chance of the petrol vapor being ignited. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding blended with scare stories put out by alternative gas suppliers who have their own vested interests to protect

Surfer replied on 15/05/2016 09:01

Posted on 15/05/2016 09:01

Just to repeat there is NO difference between filling a Safeill cylinder, a gaslow or a car.  In all cases you push the pump connector onto the connector on the car, turn and clikck it into place.  Instead of the Safeill cylinder having an external connector, it is built onto the cylinder. 

Even my wife can do it and if it is such a safety concern why aren't all cylinders including Gaslow and cars banned from filling up with gas?

Merve replied on 15/05/2016 14:44

Posted on 15/05/2016 14:44

I was talking to NEIL at Safefill just the other day and he said that anyone using or trying to fill a Safefill cylinder whilst it is on its side would be unsuccessful due to the SAFETY FEATURES built into the cylinders. Why do some people look for problems where there aren't any??? He also remarked that if there are such people about, ( and they must have been released from the local funny farm for the day) he doesn't want them as customers anyway. I am happily settled in on a glorious site in Wales with my Safefill cylinder with a filling point about 6 miles away. The SP is keeping the batteries full and  topped up, the Safefill is driving the fridge and the cooker and all is OK with the world. Thank God I went non EHU!!! 

Merve replied on 15/05/2016 14:50

Posted on 15/05/2016 14:50

I don't know how a Safefill would topple over whilst filling -  it has a wide enough base and having filled my 10 kg on the ground it is perfectly stable. The dispensing nozel is tightly clamped during the filling procedure (designed that way obviously as otherwise there would be gas escaping).  Once you try it and see how simply the procedure is it just becomes second nature like filling your car. In fact I would say that putting petrol into a car carries more risk as there is more chance of the petrol vapor being ignited. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding blended with scare stories put out by alternative gas suppliers who have their own vested interests to protect

Write your comments here...these comments are made by caravanners who havent got Safefill Tirrill and certainly have no experience of them - it all goes over my head! £6 for 8.3kg or £24 for 6kg ........... err....... Now that's a tough one!!!!

AndyNYorks replied on 16/05/2016 14:42

Posted on 16/05/2016 14:42

these comments are made by caravanners who havent got Safefill Tirrill and certainly have no experience of them - it all goes over my head! £6 for 8.3kg or £24 for 6kg ........... err....... Now that's a tough one!!!!

But compare with Flogas 19kg bottle which works out at approx £8 for 6kg then the difference is nowhere near as large. Add the cost of the journey to the nearest filling point to the Safefill price (Flogas deliver for free) and it differs even less.

Merve replied on 16/05/2016 16:22

Posted on 16/05/2016 16:22

DONE IT .....

Just ordered the 10 kgs large bottle !

Write your comments here...well done! Another convert who will find he's saving a fortune on gas and will tell others about it!!!

Merve replied on 16/05/2016 16:26

Posted on 16/05/2016 16:26

these comments are made by caravanners who havent got Safefill Tirrill and certainly have no experience of them - it all goes over my head! £6 for 8.3kg or £24 for 6kg ........... err....... Now that's a tough one!!!!

But compare with Flogas 19kg bottle which works out at approx £8 for 6kg then the difference is nowhere near as large. Add the cost of the journey to the nearest filling point to the Safefill price (Flogas deliver for free) and it differs even less.

Write your comments here...Now that's interesting but firstly the weight has to be considered and secondly I have always understood that the cylinder HAS to be in the locker during use??? Maybe I have that wrong. But the first one I haven't - a 19kg cylinder is a weighty bit of kit! 

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