An appeal to Safefill users - and others!

Merve replied on 14/08/2018 20:08

Posted on 14/08/2018 20:08

I do not wish this thread to deteriorate into a debate about Safefill Cylinders and the whys and wherefores of various other makes. This is not a promotion of any product.  So please, if you are not a Safefill User, (unless you wish to assist your fellow campers, Motorhomers and caravanners which would be very welcome!) do not comment. This thread is about the effort by the ‘Leisure public’ who use Safefill cylinders to increase the chances of more fill points which can only be a positive move. Morrisons moved to facilitate Safefill after I suggested we all write to them and ask about filling a perfectly legal cylinder. People power does work and it can be a powerful force when applied. Can anyone who uses, or is about to purchase a Safefill, or would like to see fill points open up nearer to them or just simply wants to help their fellow caravanners-  please take 5 minutes to email the following Service Station Groups about filling Safefill cylinders now that the Red Guide has been amended to encompass them and Morrisons have allowed their filling.  You will get the details from the web.  I have only chosen 2 at the moment- more will follow. If we do this as a group, we can change minds as we did with Morrisons. The first is Penny Petroleum which is based in the north of England and has 42 sites I believe. They are on Twitter so that’s another way of contacting them and applying gentle pressure! The second and much larger concern is Euro Garages Group. Please help. Safefill are too small to get out there and visit everyone but they are doing their best I can assure you. Can you please post when you have sent your communication and  any results you receive to the thread Thank you so much . We need those fill points! 

DaveCyn replied on 20/08/2018 15:00

Posted on 20/08/2018 15:00

DD. 

I strongly recommend you contact Safefill & ask them for the information you crave.

I did & received a very informative reply from them along with a PDF of the Red Guide including guidance on the refilling of cylinders.

Unfortunately I'm a technophobe & no idea how to post it on here.

replied on 20/08/2018 15:18

Posted on 20/08/2018 15:18

If you have a PDF of the red Guide it will have the publication date on it. I cannot find a recent one (in the last 12 months)

cyberyacht replied on 20/08/2018 15:52

Posted on 20/08/2018 13:48 by

Merve, time and again you have suggested that the document in question have been amended; I can't find them and neither can others.  All you have to do is post links to these documents which lead back to the relevant changes in EU and UK legislation and you won't have to ask; I will give you an apology.  

I'm all for more fill points but all being used i.a.w current legislation but not otherwise and not at any cost.  Of course CC Ltd could do a lot to help.  Most, if not all, of their sites have large LPG tanks for the boilers, etc.  Now speaking from direct and relevant experience it is possible to fit these with an HP LPG pump, meter, and filling hose.  Each pump should not cost more than £250 and the entire installation should not be more than £1k per tank.  CC Ltd customers should then be able to benefit from the reduced tax rate fuel.  Currently one supplier is selling LPG for motor vehicles at £0.59 and the same LPG for MH heating, cooking, and fridge for £0.49 which is also what all the garages should do, but don't.  

I look forward to seeing the amended document links.  

Posted on 20/08/2018 15:52

Now that 'would' be a useful development on club sites. Can't somehow see Calor being overly enthusiastic about such an innovation though.

replied on 20/08/2018 15:57

Posted on 20/08/2018 15:52 by cyberyacht

Now that 'would' be a useful development on club sites. Can't somehow see Calor being overly enthusiastic about such an innovation though.

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Boff replied on 20/08/2018 16:17

Posted on 20/08/2018 16:17

It would take a bit of imagination from the CC and most of the people who go one CC sites are the type who get through about 1 6kg a decade.  Ie the ones who in my not very humble opinion would have to be nuts to consider a refillable system (Safefill or otherwise)

replied on 20/08/2018 16:45

Posted on 20/08/2018 15:52 by cyberyacht

Now that 'would' be a useful development on club sites. Can't somehow see Calor being overly enthusiastic about such an innovation though.

Posted on 20/08/2018 16:45

Could not happen on a CC site. A risk assessment would quickly show that the only way to ensure that the bottle being filled is not a DIY lashup is to have an overview, Tanks are near washrooms and not the office. 

If there was enough uptake to install a tank by the office then maybe. As CC pitches have included EHU why would many users faff. I pay around £25 a year for 4 months gas usage. It would take at least 10 year to recoup the purchase of a refillable gas bottle

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