What constitutes an awning?

DK said...

"Trouble is I think you are playing with semantics. Currently the Club allow a wind out awning (only) on a non awning pitch on the basis that it can be quickly retracted."

surely, the club allows a wind out awning as it occupies the space where a tow car would be....nothing to do with 'quickly retracted'.

in theory, provided that the 'appendage' didn't breach any spacing rules, I don't see why a MH windout shouldn't incorporate front or side panels.

Steady BB, you’ll ruffle the feathers of the ‘rules is rules’ proponents😱. Ask yourself-does logic really have a place on CT?🤔

I agree, thats why I always book an Awning pitch even though I might or might not put out my wind out canopy. 

I was once told by a Warden (at Meathop Fell) to wind my canopy in, on a non awning pitch, because a new arrival ,on the next door Awning pitch ,had a large full awning to put up. Never again. I used to stick to non Awning pitches before that, to allow Caravanners with awnings to have them. Not any more. 

A canopy with front AND side panels IS an Awning, but with just a side wind break OR front privacy  panel its still a canopy, BUT i dont like ambiguity, So Awning pitch it is.

As one faces the pitch, the car and, by logical deduction, a MH canopy should be on the left. On a non-awning pitch it therefore follows that a MH would need to always go nose in if wishing to deploy a canopy. On an awning pitch, there is theoretically more space enabling a MH to deploy a canopy either side. Will this cause the "facing doors" brigade to have an attack of the vapours?

All we are trying to do is answer that question posed in the OP, that being 'What constitutes an awning?" It should be all about clarity not semantics. After all, this is a question which comes up time and time again on CT and is never really resolved in my opinion. Similar discussions, I guess, must also be had by staff on site on a regular basis with probably as little end satisfaction and clarity as we witness here.

How about new definitions primarily driven by the firebreak restrictions.

• A two unit pitch would accommodate the motorised vehicle and one other item i.e. Car and caravan or motorhome and awning .
• On the three unit pitch this would allow car, caravan and awning or car, motorhome and awning.

In both instances, as now, 'minor' pieces of kit i.e. Pup Tent or windbreaks etc could be included only when on pitch and confined within firebreaks.

A work in progress? Definitely, just a starting thought, probably in need of refinement but some clarity may be starting to emerge in my opinion, I'm sure more work is needed, maybe better names and other suggestions could be helpful but end result may be much clearer as is evidently much needed.

The application of your logic depends very much where the peg is positioned, CY. As you know, all units can pitch either nose in or rear in. 

Careful on this one m, the minute you look at making one pitch officially larger than another, you are entering the pitch pricing scenario, and we all know how that will end up! CintheF used to sell pitches based on size. Not sure if C&CC do.  

Edit: this gives you some of options, check out some of the eye watering prices!

https://www.campingintheforest.co.uk/campsite-facilities/pitch-types

CintheF have a similar arrangement to the C&CC in that very large camping units have to book two pitches etc. Both do discounts and C&CC members get a 15% discount with CintheF. You can still get a cheaper pitch by booking non EHU. The pitch costs vary with what you choose, unlike the CAMC who charge the same for awning, non awning or grass.

With CAMC I tend to choose awning pitches as these are the same price as non awning and on most sites they will be more spacious. We use our Thule roll out for rain, not just sun.

A good point, maybe, if a reasonable and realistic price difference ensued, that could be a good thing. Ensuring that all is R&R is the crux and may just appeal to most. Just floating ideas!

I'm not changing my awning from nearside to offside for anybody

Which side is your habitation door cy?....