What constitutes an awning?

Tio75 replied on 03/02/2019 12:32

Posted on 03/02/2019 12:32

Hi everyone, 

Still new to this game. :-)

We have an IH panel van conversion, 6.4 metres long. If we book a 'Pitch Without Awning' does that mean that we would not be able to use our wind-out awning at all? Forgive me if this seems a stupid question, but I do feel there is a difference between those luxurious and enormous awnings that effectively doubles the size of a caravan, and which takes some time to erect and dismantle, and our simple wind-out affair which just takes minutes to open and strap down and which just provides a bit of cover from the weather.

What is the official take on what is an awning, please? If I book a pitch without awning and then wind my awning out, and perhaps put a windbreak side on, will I be breaking the rules and find myself in trouble with the site wardens?

Many thanks,

Mike.

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JillwithaJay replied on 03/02/2019 12:37

Posted on 03/02/2019 12:37

In brief - yes you break the rules.  Always advisable to talk to site wardens.  You can't put 'sides' onto a wind out canopy on a non-awning pitch.  You may use a wind out canopy but must maintain the 3 metre fire break between your canopy and your neighbouring unit.  If you want to use your wind out canopy and erect 'sides' to it, it's best to book a standard pitch with awning.

Here's a statement from the club published some time ago.  Hope this helps.

 

Takethedogalong replied on 03/02/2019 12:53

Posted on 03/02/2019 12:53

To be honest Jill, I think the Club could provide better information about roll out awnings. They are accepted on none awning pitches, accept they might not be able to be fully extended, but putting up one side wind screen hardly constitutes an awning, and wouldn’t alter the fire spacing. It’s a very grey area, and must be getting more prevalent on Sites as MH usage increases.

Not questioning what you have put, just that it doesn’t quite fit what the OP is asking about. Is a windshield an awning, if erected temporarily. Bit like pegging a windbreak out on a none awning pitch.smile

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mickysf replied on 03/02/2019 13:00

Posted on 03/02/2019 13:00

May be a tad pedantic but a roll out canopy is precisely that. It is not an awning. The question should be what if attached to it changes it from a canopy into an awning which I guess is what the OP is asking?

JillwithaJay replied on 03/02/2019 13:01

Posted on 03/02/2019 13:01

Accept what you're saying tda and don't disagree.  Just posting current statement.  My take on it is the restriction concerns the windshield and /or canopy affecting the 3 metre fire gap. 

Takethedogalong replied on 03/02/2019 13:07

Posted on 03/02/2019 13:07

It’s unclear, to me a roll out with a side in is a windbreak. Of course you might only be able to put a side in if the roll out is fully extended. To avoid any issues, until Club clarifies this, best book an awning pitch. Fine at moment, there’s no difference in pricing. 

 

Bakers2 replied on 03/02/2019 13:39

Posted on 03/02/2019 13:07 by Takethedogalong

It’s unclear, to me a roll out with a side in is a windbreak. Of course you might only be able to put a side in if the roll out is fully extended. To avoid any issues, until Club clarifies this, best book an awning pitch. Fine at moment, there’s no difference in pricing. 

 

Posted on 03/02/2019 13:39

I totally agree about as transparent as mud!

We generally book an awning pitch, same price quite a few more inches πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‚. We have a wind out awning that may or may not got out, doesn't get left open if we leave the site without the MH or overnight. Dependinding on the wind we may deploy a windbreak. Might have done that on a non awning pitch can't recall but have never been told about it by a warden.

Each to their own way of using club sites with their Van's but I do agree in the size of large caravan, equally large awning and large car - necessary to tow the aforesaid πŸ˜‚ does need considerably more space.

I'm all for fire regs privacy etc but some clarity would be very valuable. Bit like parking to the peg exactly when all the space you take up is a vehicle width instead of the aforesaid. Still the club must cram the spaces that tightly to maximize revenue.

If there ever comes a time when awning pitches are more expensive, it's likely to happen in the nearish future as the club have made so many price bands for the seasons it's all that's left to tweak πŸ˜‰. If we're still members I will want decent clarification, which may have to include not only awning details but MH's that tow. I agree a wind out canopy/awning only take space of tow vehicle it doesnt contain flammable fuel etc like a vehicle!

Tinwheeler replied on 03/02/2019 13:52

Posted on 03/02/2019 13:52

The ambiguity, coupled with the fact that non-awning pitches are often squashed in odd corners, means I always book an awning pitch. The exception being Warwick Racecourse where the non-awning pitches are more level and on HS.

Justus2 replied on 03/02/2019 14:25

Posted on 03/02/2019 14:25

We have spent January booking a variety of sites with various providers right through to November. With the exception of one, Bunree, where non awning are on the lochside, all pitches booked with this club are awning pitches. Same price, more room, a better choice of pitches and we have the flexibility to take a small utility tent with us if we so choose or wind out the canopy without fear of encroaching.

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