Posted on 11/09/2022 21:23
Well, I waited until it went live. Where do l start ? UTTER PANTS best describes my experience. The queuing system failed to direct me where I wanted to go, I ran out of battery trying to search CLs and to cap it my wife's smart phone "is not compatible with the CAMC app ". 
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Posted on 18/09/2022 18:20 by InaDAs someone who has been a member of CT for some years, I know you have TW. But this thread has a lot of posts from members who have never posted before, so they aren't likely to know that, are they? Only saying
Posted on 18/09/2022 20:38
Ina, that post is so unlike you.
Do you mean to suggest people join CAMC without bothering to read about the workings of the organisation they join? The club's governance rules are on the website for everyone to read and it’s not necessary to use the forum to know about governance.
Posted on 18/09/2022 18:21 by WherenextMy own feeling is that the club has merely lost it's Unique Selling Point and now that deposits will be required members who were used to the USP will realise that there are other providers out there and test the market, especially those that are truly independent and do not require a membership fee, and some will find more competitive alternatives.
There is a wide variety of those sites available, some of whom indeed have punitive T&Cs with both deposits and cancellation conditions but there are plenty that do not. I have just left one today that merely required a deposit of 1 night stay, payment on arrival of balance. It was a saving of about 30% of the nearest club site.
So that, I think, is more of what members who are dissatisfied will do. I certainly feel a lot of the ones who threaten leaving are the same ones who were moaning about "block bookers". You can't win with those.
I'll stay but only as long as the Club are responsible for licences to CLs and that the "non members welcome" as advertised in this upgrade isn't true otherwise I'll be one of those non members using them. My usage of club sites usually reaches capacity at 1 a year.
Posted on 18/09/2022 20:48
Wherenext
Your analysis maybe completely right. So far this year we have use 7 Club sites, 4 Commercial sites (would have been 5!) 2 C&CC sites and one CL. However I wonder if all those complaining only use Club sites and don't appreciate even under the new Club T&C's what is generally out there is often equal or worse that the new arrangements? Putting CL's to one side as they have a multitude of conditions from no deposits to full up front payment. There are not many mainstream sites where there is a minimum requirement for a deposit and in many cases a requirement for full upfront payment weeks before arrival. The only option to partially avoid those T&C's would be to book at the last minute. Having said that we know that many "Club Members" like to book months and months in advance. These people are not going to find a happy home away from the Club in my view?
David
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