Motorhome facilities and rules

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 12:05

Posted on 16/09/2021 12:05

We've just returned from a tour of mid and south Wales in our motorhome.  We stayed at a number different locations: pubs, public car parks, private camp sites and one night at the C&MC site in St Davids.  We have paid our membership fees for many years, but in practice we haven't stayed on a Club site very often, and not since the name change and rebranding.  So we expected great improvements for motorhomes. 

We arrived rather early, but were warmly welcomed by the lady on reception who unexpectedly checked us in before the official time. 

I was rather confused by the parking rules, but looked at the way adjacent vehicles were arranged and tried to imitate them.  Since our motorhome is less than 2.5m wide, versus a car/caravan/awning measuring maybe 7m, it was easy to maintain the 6m separation from our neighbours.  However, apparently I had picked the wrong corner to go next to the white post.  This was explained to me that evening, but since we were leaving the next morning the very friendly warden said not to bother moving.  Fine, I'll be more careful if we visit again.

The next morning, there was a queue of motorhomes at the only grey waste point, so we decided that, as we only had a small amount of waste we would empty the toilet cassette at the service point then just fill up with fresh water and leave.  So, I pulled up next to the adjacent service point and attached my hose connector to the threaded tap.  Shortly after, a  different warden who was maintaining the grass, came along and said that motorhomes weren't allowed to use the service points and indeed there was a notice that said this that I hadn't seen.  He said that this was because filling a motorhome takes a lot of time so other people would have to wait.  I asked why I had to wait rather than other members and although a 100 litre motorhome tank will obviously take longer than a 50 litre rolling caravan tank, there were three other service points on the site.  No! Jobsworth was adamant and claimed that it was a health and safety risk (which is hard to understand). 

According to various comments on Facebook, these is just a couple of many petty rule enforcement incidents that are alienating motorhome owners.  I really think that if the Club wants to encourage this massively increasing sector of the market, they need to learn the differences between motorhomes and towed caravans.

So, the rebranding was clearly just a marketing exercise and we will have to seriously consider whether to renew our membership next year.

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2021 19:09

Posted on 22/09/2021 18:22 by Takethedogalong

Clear as mud that I am afraid JV.  If 3 with awning pitches fit into an area of grass that ensures all fire regs are met, then 3 with awning hardstandings meeting fire regs will be the same size?  Assume the peg is white in all instances, and everyone parks up car, van, awning. Motorhomes may or may not have another vehicle or Toad with them, still on a with awning pitch.🤷‍♀️
We are talking the starting area being the same size in both instances, grass or HS pitches🤷‍♀️

Posted on 22/09/2021 19:09

If as I posted an area of grass pitches is to be "upgraded?" to hardstands as posted but it seems  is still not understood  , for every three grass pitches at present , when up graded it,  then will not have enough space in most grassed areas to replace all the grass pitches surprised

Any clearer ?

young thomas replied on 22/09/2021 19:20

Posted on 22/09/2021 19:20

No...for the simple reason you haven't said that each replacement hard standing will be bigger than the grass pitch it replaces.

if it isn't, then the same number of pitches will fit.

if it is, then why are they bigger as they did the job before?

replacing 'smaller' pitches with 'bigger' ones is laudable (more room) but reducing pitch numbers isn't something I see the club doing on a whim.

ps....please can you post without putting 'it seems' or 'as posted' or any other expressions that deviate from the matter in hand, it just makes your posts really tricky to understand...thankssmile

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2021 19:30

Posted on 22/09/2021 19:20 by young thomas

No...for the simple reason you haven't said that each replacement hard standing will be bigger than the grass pitch it replaces.

if it isn't, then the same number of pitches will fit.

if it is, then why are they bigger as they did the job before?

replacing 'smaller' pitches with 'bigger' ones is laudable (more room) but reducing pitch numbers isn't something I see the club doing on a whim.

ps....please can you post without putting 'it seems' or 'as posted' or any other expressions that deviate from the matter in hand, it just makes your posts really tricky to understand...thankssmile

Posted on 22/09/2021 19:30

The reason some it seem and as posted is because it had already been posted in previous posts ,,

JollyKernow replied on 22/09/2021 20:00

Posted on 22/09/2021 20:00

Evening

I have a site safety audit tomorrow which will take most of the day. If I've done my job right it should go smoothly (hopefully). I'm nowhere near perfect but everything out on site will be audited and pitch spacing will be measured I'm sure. If I get chance I'll try and explain what jv is trying to say with the 3 into 2 pitch thing. 

There, positive post jv?wink

davetommo replied on 22/09/2021 20:37

Posted on 22/09/2021 18:07 by JVB66

It is as posted it is not the grass pitches that are a problem but as I have been told the new hardstands take up some of the space needed to maintain the fire breaks, it may even be as little as less than half a metre per hardstand hence the loss of a pitch

At  Seacroft some of the pitches that were White peg are now blue because  we were  opposite  when some pitches were being measured , ,they were half a metre to close so were made non awning ,surprised

 problems have also been caused when sites were old school  but the size of pitches now is wider, it used to be long ago 10 or 11 metres? as we all know now some think "bigger is better?" with RVs

Posted on 22/09/2021 20:37

You can also put me down as thick

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2021 22:15

Posted on 22/09/2021 20:00 by JollyKernow

Evening

I have a site safety audit tomorrow which will take most of the day. If I've done my job right it should go smoothly (hopefully). I'm nowhere near perfect but everything out on site will be audited and pitch spacing will be measured I'm sure. If I get chance I'll try and explain what jv is trying to say with the 3 into 2 pitch thing. 

There, positive post jv?wink

Posted on 22/09/2021 22:15

I am sure what you say will be acceptedwink good luckcool

KjellNN replied on 22/09/2021 22:19

Posted on 22/09/2021 18:07 by JVB66

It is as posted it is not the grass pitches that are a problem but as I have been told the new hardstands take up some of the space needed to maintain the fire breaks, it may even be as little as less than half a metre per hardstand hence the loss of a pitch

At  Seacroft some of the pitches that were White peg are now blue because  we were  opposite  when some pitches were being measured , ,they were half a metre to close so were made non awning ,surprised

 problems have also been caused when sites were old school  but the size of pitches now is wider, it used to be long ago 10 or 11 metres? as we all know now some think "bigger is better?" with RVs

Posted on 22/09/2021 22:19

I think most older HSs were  max 8m wide, many narrower.   These days they can be more like 10m.

Pitches at Stonehaven are big, many 10x10m, and on those you are requested to keep everything on the HS.  Similar at Banchory.   Burford also has large pitches.

Obviously the bigger the HS, the fewer you can fit into a given space.

young thomas replied on 23/09/2021 08:28

Posted on 23/09/2021 08:28

Not necessarily, if the pegs remain in the same place wont the units be spaced as before?

I can see a larger area might give more space around the van (to cope with bigger cars/vans) but if the pegs don't move, nor will the vans...ergo, same number of pitches but with a tad more space for kit around the van.

you could, in theory, make the whole area a continuous HS but, again, if the pegs didn't move, the spacing (and number of 'pitches') would remain the same.

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