Motorhome facilities and rules

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 12:05

Posted on 16/09/2021 12:05

We've just returned from a tour of mid and south Wales in our motorhome.  We stayed at a number different locations: pubs, public car parks, private camp sites and one night at the C&MC site in St Davids.  We have paid our membership fees for many years, but in practice we haven't stayed on a Club site very often, and not since the name change and rebranding.  So we expected great improvements for motorhomes. 

We arrived rather early, but were warmly welcomed by the lady on reception who unexpectedly checked us in before the official time. 

I was rather confused by the parking rules, but looked at the way adjacent vehicles were arranged and tried to imitate them.  Since our motorhome is less than 2.5m wide, versus a car/caravan/awning measuring maybe 7m, it was easy to maintain the 6m separation from our neighbours.  However, apparently I had picked the wrong corner to go next to the white post.  This was explained to me that evening, but since we were leaving the next morning the very friendly warden said not to bother moving.  Fine, I'll be more careful if we visit again.

The next morning, there was a queue of motorhomes at the only grey waste point, so we decided that, as we only had a small amount of waste we would empty the toilet cassette at the service point then just fill up with fresh water and leave.  So, I pulled up next to the adjacent service point and attached my hose connector to the threaded tap.  Shortly after, a  different warden who was maintaining the grass, came along and said that motorhomes weren't allowed to use the service points and indeed there was a notice that said this that I hadn't seen.  He said that this was because filling a motorhome takes a lot of time so other people would have to wait.  I asked why I had to wait rather than other members and although a 100 litre motorhome tank will obviously take longer than a 50 litre rolling caravan tank, there were three other service points on the site.  No! Jobsworth was adamant and claimed that it was a health and safety risk (which is hard to understand). 

According to various comments on Facebook, these is just a couple of many petty rule enforcement incidents that are alienating motorhome owners.  I really think that if the Club wants to encourage this massively increasing sector of the market, they need to learn the differences between motorhomes and towed caravans.

So, the rebranding was clearly just a marketing exercise and we will have to seriously consider whether to renew our membership next year.

KjellNN replied on 22/09/2021 16:57

Posted on 22/09/2021 14:49 by JVB66
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Posted on 22/09/2021 16:57

I too was wondering where the extra space disappears to!

Could it be that the new HSs are being made a little more generous to take account of wider vans, bigger awnings, and wider cars over the last 30+ years?    

Plus  allowing a bit extra for Aquaroll and Wastemaster between van and car, better room to open car doors without having 2 wheels on the grass, and even space to peg out awning guylines on the HS?

We have noticed that the newer HSs do tend to be wider, and where that is the case, one is usually asked to keep everything on the HS.   It will certainly make grass cutting between the HSs easier.

 

JVB......it would really be better to give a straight answer if you know the answer!

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Posted on 22/09/2021 15:55 by Tinwheeler
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Posted on 22/09/2021 17:03

laughing

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2021 17:07

Posted on 22/09/2021 16:57 by KjellNN

I too was wondering where the extra space disappears to!

Could it be that the new HSs are being made a little more generous to take account of wider vans, bigger awnings, and wider cars over the last 30+ years?    

Plus  allowing a bit extra for Aquaroll and Wastemaster between van and car, better room to open car doors without having 2 wheels on the grass, and even space to peg out awning guylines on the HS?

We have noticed that the newer HSs do tend to be wider, and where that is the case, one is usually asked to keep everything on the HS.   It will certainly make grass cutting between the HSs easier.

 

JVB......it would really be better to give a straight answer if you know the answer!

Posted on 22/09/2021 17:07

Last sentence ?undecided

 

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Posted on 22/09/2021 15:38 by JVB66
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Posted on 22/09/2021 17:14

I'm sorry JVB but I did not understand the explanation fully myself but then I can truly be hard of understanding at times

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2021 17:34

Posted on 22/09/2021 17:14 by

I'm sorry JVB but I did not understand the explanation fully myself but then I can truly be hard of understanding at times

Posted on 22/09/2021 17:34

I will try again then and try making it as simple as possible ?

When the  (as advised to me again this morning) grass pitch area of a club site is going to have some hardstands installed it  can basically mean the area so selected can lose a grass pitch  as when  two hardstands are installed, as the space taken up by them can cause a reduction in space to maintain fire breaks

Some sites we have used that before the last fire break recomendations were introduced that were standard white peg  hardstand pitches ,are now non awning   Sandringham and Seacroft come to mind

replied on 22/09/2021 17:44

Posted on 22/09/2021 17:34 by JVB66

I will try again then and try making it as simple as possible ?

When the  (as advised to me again this morning) grass pitch area of a club site is going to have some hardstands installed it  can basically mean the area so selected can lose a grass pitch  as when  two hardstands are installed, as the space taken up by them can cause a reduction in space to maintain fire breaks

Posted on 22/09/2021 17:44

I'm trying JVB (often told so) but as the grass pitches are spaced to maintain a fire break I don't really understand. No I am not being difficult either as I am sure that you know.. 

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2021 18:07

Posted on 22/09/2021 17:44 by

I'm trying JVB (often told so) but as the grass pitches are spaced to maintain a fire break I don't really understand. No I am not being difficult either as I am sure that you know.. 

Posted on 22/09/2021 18:07

It is as posted it is not the grass pitches that are a problem but as I have been told the new hardstands take up some of the space needed to maintain the fire breaks, it may even be as little as less than half a metre per hardstand hence the loss of a pitch

At  Seacroft some of the pitches that were White peg are now blue because  we were  opposite  when some pitches were being measured , ,they were half a metre to close so were made non awning ,surprised

 problems have also been caused when sites were old school  but the size of pitches now is wider, it used to be long ago 10 or 11 metres? as we all know now some think "bigger is better?" with RVs

Takethedogalong replied on 22/09/2021 18:22

Posted on 22/09/2021 18:22

Clear as mud that I am afraid JV.  If 3 with awning pitches fit into an area of grass that ensures all fire regs are met, then 3 with awning hardstandings meeting fire regs will be the same size?  Assume the peg is white in all instances, and everyone parks up car, van, awning. Motorhomes may or may not have another vehicle or Toad with them, still on a with awning pitch.🤷‍♀️
We are talking the starting area being the same size in both instances, grass or HS pitches🤷‍♀️

Wherenext replied on 22/09/2021 18:52

Posted on 22/09/2021 18:52

So, the club, according to its "Special Scoop Reporter", is going to widen the pitches when they convert them from grass to hardstanding and by doing so will contravene existing fire regulations if they simply replace number for number. Is that right?

If so, then what the heck has it got to do with the Opening Post? Motorhomes won't be inconvenienced by this, except that they'll have one less pitch to get a booking on.

Seems to me the thread has gone completely haywire and SSP (see above) has led you all astray.

I'll stick to CLs thank you.

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