How many is too many on a CL?

frontdoorlocked replied on 14/04/2017 17:23

Posted on 14/04/2017 17:23

My apologies if this has been said before but I'm posting on my mobile and its not the easiest to search/navigate discussions.

Ok so, we are currently on a CL for the Easter weekend, (we booked a couple of months ago and who is to say we weren't one of the first 5 people to book). w'Ahen we arrived yesterday we were the fourth outfit on site. We've come back from a trip out this afternoon to find 3 more outfits here. That is 7 in total! The field is big enough and there are plenty of electric hook ups available, so space isn't an issue. But the owner is obviously breaking the rules.

My questions are, is 7 too many? And would you complain? Who if you choose to would you complain to? 

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Fisherman replied on 17/05/2017 08:15

Posted on 17/05/2017 08:15

Reality is-nobody monitors usage, Its a cash business so its unlikely one will be turned away if there is room. How many others on site are actually CC members? No  way of knowing. I cant find real fault with site owners squeezing a few extra pound out in a short season. I dont report over usage if I am contend with the space I get and in all my years when there has been more than 5 vans I have not been inconvenienced.

tigerfish replied on 17/05/2017 12:21

Posted on 17/05/2017 12:21

MM

Understood! but actually I meant "hell"  & forgot that the four * could  be taken to be something else in language that i don't use.

Sorry pardon!

TF

tigerfish replied on 17/05/2017 14:29

Posted on 17/05/2017 14:29

Then the loss of sites will continue.  There simply has to be a way of making it worth doing for the site owner.

Doing it for a pittance was acceptable a few years ago, but things are different now.

Its not going to be a real problem for me now as I'm leaving the CC at the end of June, but I have enjoyed membership in the past and would want it to remain for others.

TF

mickysf replied on 17/05/2017 18:34

Posted on 17/05/2017 18:34

I know of 'one' CL on a farm where the wife runs a site on one side of the 'road' and the husband the other on the other side of the road. This road is really a green lane! Neither ever have more than five vans on them but they share the facilities offered. Due to clever hedging you can't see one from the other.

Vulcan replied on 21/05/2017 16:44

Posted on 17/05/2017 18:34 by mickysf

I know of 'one' CL on a farm where the wife runs a site on one side of the 'road' and the husband the other on the other side of the road. This road is really a green lane! Neither ever have more than five vans on them but they share the facilities offered. Due to clever hedging you can't see one from the other.

Posted on 21/05/2017 16:44

Having two CL's on the same property can only be accomplished when the two pieces of land are held in separately named land holdings which is quite rare.

Garto74 replied on 03/08/2017 18:39

Posted on 03/08/2017 18:39

Our experience is that this is becoming more frequent we have been using CL's for nearly 40 years. We thought the definition of a CL was a maximum of 5 units at one address.  We have been to CL's where there have been two or three areas each with 5 pitches, we have been on CL's where there is a caravan in the next field with temporary cable running to it from the CL, we have been to CL's where the owner has been packing extra motorhomes in and running temporary cables across the access road and we have been on sites where the field we are in has more than 5 vans.  In every case we have booked in advance so we have paid and we don't want to drive away and lose our money. How do we stand legally if the site is inspected and through no fault of ours we are involved in breaking the regulations?

Where this has happened we do not go back. Will it make any difference if we do report it to the CAMC? We have been told of CL's that have been reported and they just open another area.

CLMaddie replied on 04/08/2017 11:08

Posted on 04/08/2017 11:08

Hi Garto74

It is disappointing to hear of so many examples that a lot of you have experienced with CL sites being over capacity.

All of our CL sites should only have a maximum of 5 units on it at any one time. CL's which fail to meet this condition are breaching their certificate. 

We do ask any members who come across this to report it to the CL department as soon as they can and to provide photographs if possible to support our investigation. We will then get one of our Field Team to visit that site as soon as possible to address the situation. 

With over 2300 sites it is difficult for us to monitor on our own so we do value any feedback from our members. 

In regards to where you stand legally as a member on a site that is over booked. This would have no impact on yourselves, this is the responsibility of the CL owner to manage their bookings to ensure that they are not exceeding their capacity. 

If anyone wishes to report a CL site which is breaking the rules you can do so by emailing CLresponse@camc.com please be assured that we will not share your details with the CL site. 

Thanks

Maddie

Bakers2 replied on 04/08/2017 12:18

Posted on 04/08/2017 11:08 by CLMaddie

Hi Garto74

It is disappointing to hear of so many examples that a lot of you have experienced with CL sites being over capacity.

All of our CL sites should only have a maximum of 5 units on it at any one time. CL's which fail to meet this condition are breaching their certificate. 

We do ask any members who come across this to report it to the CL department as soon as they can and to provide photographs if possible to support our investigation. We will then get one of our Field Team to visit that site as soon as possible to address the situation. 

With over 2300 sites it is difficult for us to monitor on our own so we do value any feedback from our members. 

In regards to where you stand legally as a member on a site that is over booked. This would have no impact on yourselves, this is the responsibility of the CL owner to manage their bookings to ensure that they are not exceeding their capacity. 

If anyone wishes to report a CL site which is breaking the rules you can do so by emailing CLresponse@camc.com please be assured that we will not share your details with the CL site. 

Thanks

Maddie

Posted on 04/08/2017 12:18

Thanks for your response.  I assume you're staff? Your avatar lacks that banner 😲

CLMaddie replied on 04/08/2017 15:42

Posted on 04/08/2017 12:18 by Bakers2

Thanks for your response.  I assume you're staff? Your avatar lacks that banner 😲

Posted on 04/08/2017 15:42

Hi Bakers2 

Yes, I work in the CL Team at Head Office, working on getting the banner added laughing.

Thanks

Maddie

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