How many is too many on a CL?

frontdoorlocked replied on 14/04/2017 17:23

Posted on 14/04/2017 17:23

My apologies if this has been said before but I'm posting on my mobile and its not the easiest to search/navigate discussions.

Ok so, we are currently on a CL for the Easter weekend, (we booked a couple of months ago and who is to say we weren't one of the first 5 people to book). w'Ahen we arrived yesterday we were the fourth outfit on site. We've come back from a trip out this afternoon to find 3 more outfits here. That is 7 in total! The field is big enough and there are plenty of electric hook ups available, so space isn't an issue. But the owner is obviously breaking the rules.

My questions are, is 7 too many? And would you complain? Who if you choose to would you complain to? 

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Pippah45 replied on 04/08/2017 20:55

Posted on 04/08/2017 20:55

Maddie - it's not just you - the whole of CT is very short on responses to many topics.  And now we understand that Facebook gets far more attention.  I won't use Facebook since someone let drop my whole name which means every detail about me is in the totally public domain from my address and telephone number to my shopping habits! 

tigerfish replied on 05/08/2017 00:48

Posted on 05/08/2017 00:48

OK, Despite my earlier comments re membership, I finally stayed purely to retain access to the CL network.  For me the Club site network has  outpriced itself. I would never pay more than £20 per night for all the Club site facilities, and enjoy the £10 - £12 per night that the CL network offers (wit EHU)

But CL's are undoubtedly under pressure and in order to keep prices down they do need to maximise their revenue during a very short season.

Lets face it!  The current regs were fine 30 - 40 years ago but simply do not work today. I for one would never consider reporting a CL owner with a large nicely mowed paddock who happens to have a couple of extra vans present at change over time.  C'mon guys Get Real, - the CL network is suffering primarily due to outmoded and ancient regulations!

TF

papgeno replied on 05/08/2017 08:31

Posted on 05/08/2017 08:31

I tend to agree with TF. The primary legislation is an Act passed in 1960 when many vans didn't have the level of sanitary facilities they have today. The legislation is first and foremost public health based and I guess was enacted to give a basic number of vans that could be accommodated hygienically on a small site. In that respect it would appear to be due for revision 

Fisherman replied on 05/08/2017 09:27

Posted on 05/08/2017 09:27

Same here would not report a Cl for excess. Its not the Cls its the CC that needs to grasp the issue.

johnathome replied on 05/08/2017 10:14

Posted on 05/08/2017 10:14

Have to agree tigerfish as long as the facility's and area do not cause problems for other members, why not a couple of extra pitches.

I to tend to use mainly CL sites due to the high cost of many CMC sites.

As some on here argue, club sites may be heavily booked but I would hazard a guess that you would fill a lot more midweek slots by averaging out your prices and stopping the weekend only bookings until a month before departure.

what I mean by that is you wish to make a booking more than a month in advance including a weekend, then you should have to book and pay for at least 3 or even 4 nights.

This would give those members who only wish to use club sites on Friday and Saturdays a chance to book a month in advance, and the rest of us a who wish to stay longer a better chance of booking a longer stay including weekends.

I await the usual banter & complaints.

 

harryb replied on 05/08/2017 10:17

Posted on 05/08/2017 10:17

We all complain about rules being broken on club sites for many reasons. Surely cl's are no exception. If the 5 van rule needs to be extended then both sites and members need to lobby the club

At present i'm on a cl in N. Yorks that has 12 vans on. There is only 5 pitch numbers but many ehu's. The owner even emptied a paddock of 12 sheep to fit in another van and according to the bus driver who dropped us off at the gate this site is rammed most weekends.

I will give a site report accordingly

Takethedogalong replied on 05/08/2017 11:30

Posted on 05/08/2017 11:30

I would check the CL doesn't have a small private site adjacent, and just how long ago the sheep were evicted. That is a H&S issue.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/08/2017 13:04

Posted on 05/08/2017 13:04

"If the 5 van rule needs to be extended then both sites and members need to lobby the club"

 

It's not for the club to decide on numbers. It's legislative and the club's hands are tied.

 

Takethedogalong replied on 05/08/2017 13:18

Posted on 05/08/2017 13:18

We are happy with 5 vans, and happy to support those that have made the planning application and either gone more pitches/exCL, or added a separate area. 

replied on 05/08/2017 13:29

Posted on 05/08/2017 13:29

I have not used CLs much for 20 years. I used to use quite a number. Cannot recall seeing more than 5 ourfits except on one occasion which was understandable and we were grateful to the owner.

WE had arrived at a CC site at around 6pm. It was by then raining stair rods. The pitches were closed and the warden phoned a local CL on our behalf and knowing that it was full (overfull in fact). We joined 4 other outfits in an area of hardstanding between stable blocks. None of us had unhitched I suspect and had simply dropped legs, filled a jug or similar with water, got inside, stripped off and changed. The rain was so heavy that without full waterproofs you were soaked through to underwear in half a dozen strides.

We stayed just overnight and the owner refused payment

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