How many is too many on a CL?

frontdoorlocked replied on 14/04/2017 17:23

Posted on 14/04/2017 17:23

My apologies if this has been said before but I'm posting on my mobile and its not the easiest to search/navigate discussions.

Ok so, we are currently on a CL for the Easter weekend, (we booked a couple of months ago and who is to say we weren't one of the first 5 people to book). w'Ahen we arrived yesterday we were the fourth outfit on site. We've come back from a trip out this afternoon to find 3 more outfits here. That is 7 in total! The field is big enough and there are plenty of electric hook ups available, so space isn't an issue. But the owner is obviously breaking the rules.

My questions are, is 7 too many? And would you complain? Who if you choose to would you complain to? 

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eurortraveller replied on 15/05/2017 19:25

Posted on 15/05/2017 19:16 by IanH

And the answer from CAMC to this specific report of infringement of the rules and threat to CL's generally is..............?

Posted on 15/05/2017 19:25

If I were giving the answers I would say Relax, enjoy your holiday, and if there are six or seven on site instead of five it really doesn't matter very much. The constabulary will not arrive. There is no threat to CLs generally. They will gradually continue to wither away naturally, gracefully  and gradually, as owners see the best way forward for them. 

nelliethehooker replied on 15/05/2017 20:19

Posted on 15/05/2017 19:17 by Fisherman

Whats the bet they will soon leave the network for small commercials. Another decline in the network. Was there sufficient room for all the units to coexist? Its happening all the time.

Posted on 15/05/2017 20:19

Its happening all the time.

No it isn't. It may be happening some of the time, but the Cl we're on at the moment has more than 5 hook-ups & plenty of room for extra vans, and although having 5 vans on, others have been turned away. Maybe the fact that it's only £10 pn is that it's full all this month, and the owner doesn't want to loose regulars by putting more than 5 units on.

Bakers2 replied on 15/05/2017 20:25

Posted on 15/05/2017 20:25

We use CL'S that have more than 5 ehu and have NEVER seen more than 5 vans on site at anytime.

Please don't tar all CL's with that brush.

harryb replied on 15/05/2017 21:40

Posted on 15/05/2017 20:25 by Bakers2

We use CL'S that have more than 5 ehu and have NEVER seen more than 5 vans on site at anytime.

Please don't tar all CL's with that brush.

Posted on 15/05/2017 21:40

I too can agree with that but I don't think the replies in this post are tarring all cl's with this problem they, including myself, are just trying to protect the future of the cl system.

However it is these larger cl's that are exploiting their extra space by taking on more than the stipulated 5 maximum that need watching. It is they that could be putting the future of the cl system at risk.

tigerfish replied on 16/05/2017 11:51

Posted on 16/05/2017 11:51

I only use CL's - and Cs's these days and quite often see extra vans, usually at change over times like weekends. But what the ****?     If it doesn't  affect me  why should I worry?

The season is very short for many of them,  most are still at about £14 per night all in, including EHU, so I cannot condemn them for trying to make a bit, whilst the sun shines.

IMHO the 5 van limit was OK, but today does not provide much return for their efforts .  Many just pack up, but others go for small commercial status with a Licence from LA.

TF

mickysf replied on 16/05/2017 18:27

Posted on 16/05/2017 18:27

I don't know if it would be possible to create a new category of site whilst keeping the CL 5 van sites, I love these! This new category could be called micro sites (term pinched from micro pub or micro brewery) and have a limit of, lets suggest, 10 van maximum. Just a thought!cool

i also reckon that those owners of CLs who know that the capacity is there to fill such pitch numbers regularly would consider this if available whilst those that maybe can't would remain as CL status.

Vulcan replied on 16/05/2017 18:53

Posted on 16/05/2017 18:27 by mickysf

I don't know if it would be possible to create a new category of site whilst keeping the CL 5 van sites, I love these! This new category could be called micro sites (term pinched from micro pub or micro brewery) and have a limit of, lets suggest, 10 van maximum. Just a thought!cool

i also reckon that those owners of CLs who know that the capacity is there to fill such pitch numbers regularly would consider this if available whilst those that maybe can't would remain as CL status.

Posted on 16/05/2017 18:53

The option for a larger site is readily  available through the planning system.

mickysf replied on 16/05/2017 20:40

Posted on 16/05/2017 18:53 by Vulcan

The option for a larger site is readily  available through the planning system.

Posted on 16/05/2017 20:40

I fully appreciate this, Vulcan. I was just postulating about such sites of around 10 pitches staying within the  C&MHC 'family' whilst differentiating themselves from the CLs that many enjoy.

bottomrung replied on 16/05/2017 21:46

Posted on 16/05/2017 21:46

Legally the maximum is 5 vans per night. Anymore is too many. 

I have said many times on these discussion forums that I would give up caravanning if it wasn't for these lovely Certified Locations. Where I always seem to get into trouble is that I am prepared to pay a lot to stay on these sites just to keep them viable for the owners. I do think the owners should make an effort to keep their sites well maintained and if so I am willing to pay up to £20 per night or more for a great location (sea views etc.) 

I know and understand some folk don't want to or can't pay that. But if CL lovers want to keep these sites going we do need to support them and keep to the five pitches!

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