Early arrivals - action at last?

Tinwheeler replied on 03/09/2022 12:51

Posted on 03/09/2022 12:51

I’ve said several times when we’ve discussed the issue of early arrivals that, in my opinion, the only effective way to deal with recalcitrant 'offenders' is to apply membership sanctions.

I’ve been reading elsewhere of a CAMC member who, it’s reported, has had his club membership suspended by the Site Manager due to arriving early at Hillhead and refusing to leave despite being requested to do so by that Site Manager.

In this case it seems to have been the member's own lack of planning and forethought which resulted in his early arrival so it’s not a case of there being any extenuating circumstances.

Obviously only one side of the story is given and we need to keep open minds but, if this is factual, it would appear that the club is using its teeth in an effort to enforce the no arrivals before 1300 rule. Perhaps this is what is needed to get the message across.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/09/2022 11:23

Posted on 04/09/2022 10:57 by JVB66

No site is the same for space to wait  but it seems the tick box has yet again taken over from common sense 

Which in the years of our membership is for a few site staff an excuse to use it as an "I run this site And what I say goes"🤔

I have had a run in recently with a couple of Managers? who can only run a site via tick boxes 

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:23

Geez JV, that is the first time I’ve heard you be negative towards any C&MC employee😱

Takethedogalong replied on 04/09/2022 11:25

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:25

It would be much better all round if staff could use their initiative and manage each site individually, dependent upon space, time of year, time of day, how busy the site is, approach roads, surrounding area etc……

This is possibly how things have been done for quite a while, but of course has always drawn the attention and scorn of those who like things very black or white. At the end of the day, it’s a problem caused primarily by Members, who either can’t or won’t use their own bit of common sense, and the percentage of folks doing this has now reached levels where action has had to be taken for one reason or another.

The simplistic one rule covering all Sites, fully implemented with no room for independent interpretation will please many, catch out an innocent few, educate the selfish/devious, be hard on front line staff at times. Hopefully, once the message has fully got through, things will calm down. It’s probably only a very tiny minority where things end up in a suspension situation thankfully.

 

GEandGJE replied on 04/09/2022 11:26

Posted on 03/09/2022 14:32 by eurortraveller

I’m afraid this Club and it’s wardens have a lot to learn.

But once we have a booking system where members have paid in advance under the new system.the HR department at Head Office will be urgently re training wardens about breach of contract law if they turn people away who have paid.

Whether they will ever learn customer service such as the better commercial sites have is another matter. For instance  Polmanter site at St Ives says visitors are welcome to park free of charge from 0200 in the early arrivals area, to check in at reception from 0900, have breakfast on the cafe while they wait, and the staff do their best to have all pitches ready by 1230, but often earlier.

 And of course visitors can book a pre selected pitch so they don’t have to race other people to bag the pitch they want.

 

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:26

So what is it that you are afraid that the club and the wardens have to learn.

Your example of customer service at one site against the Club's whole network of sites is comparing apples too oranges, which is a phase used a lot lately.

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 11:34

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:25 by Takethedogalong

It would be much better all round if staff could use their initiative and manage each site individually, dependent upon space, time of year, time of day, how busy the site is, approach roads, surrounding area etc……

This is possibly how things have been done for quite a while, but of course has always drawn the attention and scorn of those who like things very black or white. At the end of the day, it’s a problem caused primarily by Members, who either can’t or won’t use their own bit of common sense, and the percentage of folks doing this has now reached levels where action has had to be taken for one reason or another.

The simplistic one rule covering all Sites, fully implemented with no room for independent interpretation will please many, catch out an innocent few, educate the selfish/devious, be hard on front line staff at times. Hopefully, once the message has fully got through, things will calm down. It’s probably only a very tiny minority where things end up in a suspension situation thankfully.

 

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:34

Great post and so truecool

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 11:36

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:23 by Rocky 2 buckets

Geez JV, that is the first time I’ve heard you be negative towards any C&MC employee😱

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:36

Just shows that every poster does not read all what is written cool

Tinwheeler replied on 04/09/2022 11:38

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:15 by JVB66

There are concessions and also common sense  which at times it seems are not compatible when the tick box society are involved😏🤣🤣

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:38

I think TDA has put the reasons for standardisation very well so I'll not repeat them. Her post illustrates the potential pit falls of varying the application of rules.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/09/2022 11:39

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:26 by GEandGJE

So what is it that you are afraid that the club and the wardens have to learn.

Your example of customer service at one site against the Club's whole network of sites is comparing apples too oranges, which is a phase used a lot lately.

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:39

I paid for a satnav online Argos. I went to pick up the satnav the next day & couldn’t gain access to the store as I was too early, I’m looking for a good solicitor as I’ve just found out ‘Frank down the pub’ reckons I’m good to go! ££££££👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/09/2022 11:42

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:36 by JVB66

Just shows that every poster does not read all what is written cool

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:42

True, it also proves some posters have no loyalty when there’s nothing in it for them🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

Takethedogalong replied on 04/09/2022 11:54

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:54

Getting customer care right is never easy, and particularly hard across multi site businesses with differing constraints. Respect has to come from both staff and customers. It’s very difficult where Service Sites differ hugely in terms of geography, space, etc…… 

Customers often take the simplistic view that anything bearing the same badge is identical across all sites so get caught out, take umbrage, throw their toys out of the pram if there is the slightest deviation from their expectations. Others love the difference, embrace the quirks and relish how hard the staff work to put their individual take onto things, so long as it’s done with fairness and a smile.

One is harder to manage, but the rewards for most are better. Better for discerning customers, empowering for the (right) staff. 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/09/2022 12:00

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:54 by Takethedogalong

Getting customer care right is never easy, and particularly hard across multi site businesses with differing constraints. Respect has to come from both staff and customers. It’s very difficult where Service Sites differ hugely in terms of geography, space, etc…… 

Customers often take the simplistic view that anything bearing the same badge is identical across all sites so get caught out, take umbrage, throw their toys out of the pram if there is the slightest deviation from their expectations. Others love the difference, embrace the quirks and relish how hard the staff work to put their individual take onto things, so long as it’s done with fairness and a smile.

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:00

Our cousins from the USA have coined a name for the former folk you mentioned-Karens & Kens. I’ve watched the vids. . .Horrific🤷🏻‍♂️

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