Early arrivals - action at last?

Tinwheeler replied on 03/09/2022 12:51

Posted on 03/09/2022 12:51

I’ve said several times when we’ve discussed the issue of early arrivals that, in my opinion, the only effective way to deal with recalcitrant 'offenders' is to apply membership sanctions.

I’ve been reading elsewhere of a CAMC member who, it’s reported, has had his club membership suspended by the Site Manager due to arriving early at Hillhead and refusing to leave despite being requested to do so by that Site Manager.

In this case it seems to have been the member's own lack of planning and forethought which resulted in his early arrival so it’s not a case of there being any extenuating circumstances.

Obviously only one side of the story is given and we need to keep open minds but, if this is factual, it would appear that the club is using its teeth in an effort to enforce the no arrivals before 1300 rule. Perhaps this is what is needed to get the message across.

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 12:04

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:38 by Tinwheeler

I think TDA has put the reasons for standardisation very well so I'll not repeat them. Her post illustrates the potential pit falls of varying the application of rules.

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:04

Very good post from TDA ,and as said  a common across the board approach to arrivals has been in operation for years ,it is just as in any organisation things slip? and the new crackdown is the latest attempt 

And it seems there are as has always been those who will just love to. show "I am in charge" but thank goodness there are many more who use common sense in whatever situation arises

An  arrival a well before 1300 "trying it on?" is a bit different from as the Hillhead arrival a consequence of circumstances 

And by the time that arrival had gone down to Kingswear and back via the one way system and used the return it would have been well past 1300  when Hillhead has  two lanes for arrivals was a very good example of "Jobs worth" when common sense was available 👌

 

 

 

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 12:13

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:42 by Rocky 2 buckets

True, it also proves some posters have no loyalty when there’s nothing in it for them🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:13

that is true about any organisation most belong to or usewink

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 12:19

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:39 by Rocky 2 buckets

I paid for a satnav online Argos. I went to pick up the satnav the next day & couldn’t gain access to the store as I was too early, I’m looking for a good solicitor as I’ve just found out ‘Frank down the pub’ reckons I’m good to go! ££££££👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:19

  • I had just the opposite I paid for a trailer on line from Halfords when I arrived at the store in question to pick it up ,they did not have the model in stock when checking so let me have the higher capacity and size for the same pricecool

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/09/2022 12:49

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:19 by JVB66
  • I had just the opposite I paid for a trailer on line from Halfords when I arrived at the store in question to pick it up ,they did not have the model in stock when checking so let me have the higher capacity and size for the same pricecool

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:49

Of course-I wouldn’t expect any other JV, did they ask for your autograph too?. You are reminiscent of Ernest Hemingway👍🏻

JVB66 replied on 04/09/2022 13:01

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:49 by Rocky 2 buckets

Of course-I wouldn’t expect any other JV, did they ask for your autograph too?. You are reminiscent of Ernest Hemingway👍🏻

Posted on 04/09/2022 13:01

Oh  dear undecided

Tinwheeler replied on 04/09/2022 13:10

Posted on 04/09/2022 12:04 by JVB66

Very good post from TDA ,and as said  a common across the board approach to arrivals has been in operation for years ,it is just as in any organisation things slip? and the new crackdown is the latest attempt 

And it seems there are as has always been those who will just love to. show "I am in charge" but thank goodness there are many more who use common sense in whatever situation arises

An  arrival a well before 1300 "trying it on?" is a bit different from as the Hillhead arrival a consequence of circumstances 

And by the time that arrival had gone down to Kingswear and back via the one way system and used the return it would have been well past 1300  when Hillhead has  two lanes for arrivals was a very good example of "Jobs worth" when common sense was available 👌

 

 

 

Posted on 04/09/2022 13:10

I can’t agree with you that the person in question here's arrival was "a consequence of circumstances". Or rather, it appears it was but those circumstances seem to be self made. Whether deliberately or unintentionally he seems to have miscalculated his journey time which resulted in early arrival. He also appears to have made no attempt to leave Exeter later which he could have done as there is ample parking outside the site and this compounded the apparent error.

I think the club has probably found it necessary to enforce an across the board ruling due to the increase in LV ownership and, as explained by TDA, there is no longer leeway for wardens to bend the rules. Two lanes for arrivals, maybe, but we've already covered the ground of needing standardisation as sites differ.

Finally, I’m shocked that you of all people should refer to a member of site staff in such derogatory terms. I don’t think any of us can condemn either party in this incident with any certainty as we are reacting to a reported story and we were not party to the event. As I said in my OP, we need to keep open minds as we comment here.

huskydog replied on 04/09/2022 13:45

Posted on 04/09/2022 13:45

So , the club has apparently suspended a membership for being early at a site , is the club going to apply public flogging for speeding and putting members in the stocks for dogs not being on leads ? , where will it end surprised

EmilysDad replied on 04/09/2022 13:57

Posted on 04/09/2022 11:39 by Rocky 2 buckets

I paid for a satnav online Argos. I went to pick up the satnav the next day & couldn’t gain access to the store as I was too early, I’m looking for a good solicitor as I’ve just found out ‘Frank down the pub’ reckons I’m good to go! ££££££👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Posted on 04/09/2022 13:57

But at least they wouldn't have turned you around & told you to go away till the store opened. You'd be able to wait in their car park.

Cornersteady replied on 04/09/2022 14:17

Posted on 04/09/2022 13:45 by huskydog

So , the club has apparently suspended a membership for being early at a site , is the club going to apply public flogging for speeding and putting members in the stocks for dogs not being on leads ? , where will it end surprised

Posted on 04/09/2022 14:17

No it's clear that according to the thread they have been apparently suspended for refusing to follow an instruction from the site manager to leave the site, actually it was the second time they had been asked to leave.  

LLM replied on 04/09/2022 14:23

Posted on 04/09/2022 14:23

As far as I can see the defendant posted the following:

I am a member of the Caravan and Motorhome Club. Yesterday 01/09/2022, I eft the Exeter Racecourse CMC site. I waited until the 12pm deadline in order that my arrival at the CMC at Hillhead was not early. Despite taking my time I found myself arriving slightly early. As previous visitors my know the route in to Hillhead is through a busy road system. There are no useful lay-bys once one has left the A380 to pull in and wait especially is you have a 12meter unit (Car & Caravan). My wife and I duly arrived at Hillhead at 12:45pm and parked in the long two lane arrivals area. We were at that time the only arrivals.  Shortly approached by two wardens who directed us to leave the site immediately , and return after 1pm. When asked where we could go were told to turn left out of the site, toward  Kingswear and the ferry terminal. Having attended the site previously, and knowing the geography of the very narrow and steep lane, I declined to do soon the grounds of safety to my wife myself, my car and caravan. 

Five minutes later 12.50pm(still 10 minutes early we were approached by a gentleman stating that he was the site manager. He instructed me to leave immediately and return after 1pm(Less than 10 minutes). 

I again sited the relative safety issues and refused to leave for the sake of 10 minutes. I was very polite with the man. The site manager then told me that my booking was cancelled with immediate effect, and my CMC membership suspended.  

I left without further argument , both my wife and I very upset at our ruined holiday , and CMC loosing £449 in site fees. 

I am aware that CMC has recently brought in this policy of no arrivals before 1pm, but surely common sense must prevail!

If that is substantially true then my reading the the situation was a couple of members of staff out to make an impression overreacted to a relatively minor indiscretion.  Once the site manager had been called he would have had little choice but to support his staff whether he agreed or not.  A storm in a tea cup became a major incident. 

What intrigues me is that looking down from a Google maps flyover I can see the entrance lanes and out bound lane in total not more than about 12m wide.  Just how was the defendant with a 12m rig expect to U turn there without a lot of faffing about?  

 

 

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