Clachan Arrival Trial.

DavidKlyne replied on 28/08/2022 00:17

Posted on 28/08/2022 00:17

This link was posted in the General Chat section but I think it would be good repost here as a separate discussion. https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/arrival-efficiency-trial-at-clachan/

The Club are going to trial the use of ANPR from 24th August at the Clachan site in Scotland to automate arrivals with the likelihood it will be rolled out to more sites if successful. Some of you may have already used commercial sites where ANRP is employed to access a site. All the details are quite extensively covered in the link. Members will have to make sure their registration number is registered when booking and apparently payment will be taken on the morning of arrival. 

David

Tinwheeler replied on 29/08/2022 09:41

Posted on 29/08/2022 09:41

Well, I guess there just no pleasing some folk, BB. The club takes a step forward by starting a trial of something you and others have been pushing for years yet still you tell us it's not enough and go into great detail of the better ways it could be done. 

I think we all get it that things are done differently overthere - goodness knows, you've told us often enough.

SteveL replied on 29/08/2022 10:07

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:07

Whilst under the current system I think a strictly enforced  1pm arrivals is the best policy. This new technology if it works, without causing more problems than it solves,  does throw up some interesting possibilities for the future. 
As the system will know when folk leave and pitches of different types become free, why not market those at the last minute to those wanting to arrive early. £5 flat fee payable on an App and your early arrival is secured.😀 If hedge trimming or something else is required before a new arrival, those particular pitches could be removed from the early arrival system.

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vbfg replied on 29/08/2022 10:17

Posted on 28/08/2022 17:24 by Takethedogalong

I am sure it will work for most folks, dare I say like us. Happy to do things online prior to arrival, happy just to drive in and choose a free pitch, get set up, kettle on. It’s just like a big CL, but with fancy gates. Say hello to staff/owner when it’s convenient. It’s our preferred model. 😁

However, judging by all the huffing and puffing that is stated in some CL reviews about “no one there to greet us”, it might not suit all. 

If it keeps some of the small basic sites, such as Clachan, Nunnykirk, Bromyard, etc…. viable and on the network, utilising staff hours better, then it’s a very positive leap forwards as far as I am concerned. Far too many of these type of Sites have gone in the recent last few years.

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:17

Like yourself, I am happy to just drive onto a site and am not bothered if no-one is there to greet me.  I stayed at the North Yorkshire Moors site last month (a large site with no facility block) and there was an envelope with my name on in a box outside reception, asking me to choose a pitch and check in later.  Fine by me and a really lovely, very well kept site with very pleasant Wardens.  Why some people need to have face to face contact as soon as they arrive on a site, is a mystery to me. 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 29/08/2022 10:20

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:20

ANPR has been around since the 1980’s, revolutionary-approx 40yrs ago really?.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 29/08/2022 10:25

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:17 by vbfg

Like yourself, I am happy to just drive onto a site and am not bothered if no-one is there to greet me.  I stayed at the North Yorkshire Moors site last month (a large site with no facility block) and there was an envelope with my name on in a box outside reception, asking me to choose a pitch and check in later.  Fine by me and a really lovely, very well kept site with very pleasant Wardens.  Why some people need to have face to face contact as soon as they arrive on a site, is a mystery to me. 

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:25

Maybe options-std £20, std+(met at gate with flowers)£30, gold std(met at gate with flowers then taken to pitch by flag waver) £50😊

SteveL replied on 29/08/2022 10:26

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:17 by vbfg

Like yourself, I am happy to just drive onto a site and am not bothered if no-one is there to greet me.  I stayed at the North Yorkshire Moors site last month (a large site with no facility block) and there was an envelope with my name on in a box outside reception, asking me to choose a pitch and check in later.  Fine by me and a really lovely, very well kept site with very pleasant Wardens.  Why some people need to have face to face contact as soon as they arrive on a site, is a mystery to me. 

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:26

Like yourself we are happy to sort ourselves out. However, I don’t find it particularly surprising that other folk prefer a more hands on approach. We are all different, some more confident than others. For some of the arrivals it might be there first time on a CAMC site, or even there first outing with a caravan in tow / driving a MH. Others might require some assistance because of a disability.

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Posted on 29/08/2022 10:20 by Rocky 2 buckets

ANPR has been around since the 1980’s, revolutionary-approx 40yrs ago really?.

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Navigateur replied on 29/08/2022 10:58

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:58

Trialing ANPR does seem to be a good idea. And doing so at a small site that is in effect a satellite of a larger site is a sensible place to try it out. I just hope that the trial is not jepordised by the physical location.

At present new arrivals have to attend at the 1/2 mile away Maragowan site's office which has a bit of space before the barrier (and a LNA area) and most new arrivals have to drive around that site to get back onto the highway and approach the Clachan site heading east. The road there (and all around the area for miles) is narrow and busy but new arrivals appearing singly and spaced in time will have no trouble entering the site. 

With ANPR, arrivals may not be so well spaced out and some blocking of the road could occur as a convoy gains access. That problem will be much worse if a new arrival appears before 1 p.m. - whether or not they are pre-booked. No space to wait; those heading east will have to travel many miles to turn, those heading west might get turned in village of Killin, but the Caravan Club Maragowan site is probably the safest.

I don't see the local authority or the police being happy to allow outfits to queue on the road in view of the chaos it will cause to the local traffic.  I fear the Caravan Club could be forced to abandon the trial early by the authorities.

Cornersteady replied on 29/08/2022 10:59

Posted on 29/08/2022 09:06 by eurortraveller

Simple answer is for the barrier to open and let them in. Yes before 1 pm. Even at breakfast time if there’s space inside.

There’s a multi storey car park I use now and then -the system there knows  if there’s space inside, and if there is then the barrier opens and lets me in. It doesn’t make me wait till 1 pm.  

Clachan club site has vacancies every day for the next three weeks.  If there’s space inside at Clachan customers need not be forced to wait. Let the ANPR system do it’s stuff.

And when it rolls out to other small sites then no more problems for wardens who are eating their lunch before they open up.

Revolution is happening.

 

Posted on 29/08/2022 10:59

There’s a multi storey car park I use now and then -the system there knows if there’s space inside, and if there is then the barrier opens and lets me in. It doesn’t make me wait till 1 pm

You've made this comparison before and has someone else mentioned you're not towing then? And if you did find a car park like that opened at 1pm maybe you wouldn't turn up early?

Again you don't use club sites, and say you won't yet have all these ideas how they should be run?

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