Clachan Arrival Trial.

DavidKlyne replied on 28/08/2022 00:17

Posted on 28/08/2022 00:17

This link was posted in the General Chat section but I think it would be good repost here as a separate discussion. https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/useful-information/arrival-efficiency-trial-at-clachan/

The Club are going to trial the use of ANPR from 24th August at the Clachan site in Scotland to automate arrivals with the likelihood it will be rolled out to more sites if successful. Some of you may have already used commercial sites where ANRP is employed to access a site. All the details are quite extensively covered in the link. Members will have to make sure their registration number is registered when booking and apparently payment will be taken on the morning of arrival. 

David

Hja replied on 28/08/2022 19:40

Posted on 28/08/2022 19:40

Difficult to do sms if no mobile signal. Although that is a separate issue to anpr.

Cornersteady replied on 28/08/2022 19:53

Posted on 28/08/2022 19:16 by

ANPR simply recognises the alpha numeric string it is given.  It will recognise foreign plates almost without exception.  Obviously the better the quality and programming the more accurate the system.   

Posted on 28/08/2022 19:53

Quite a few exceptions actually if you look at some what car parking companies/makers of such things say on their websites, anything non standard may not be read.

Still I'm sure the club will have looked into that to ensure it will work. 

Post edit, the company they are working with is here

Cornersteady replied on 28/08/2022 20:08

Posted on 28/08/2022 19:40 by Hja

Difficult to do sms if no mobile signal. Although that is a separate issue to anpr.

Posted on 28/08/2022 20:08

Good point and I assume there will be a link with the app at some point, but again a signal will be needed.

nelliethehooker replied on 28/08/2022 20:33

Posted on 28/08/2022 20:33

I think the major problem initially will be members arriving at Clachan before 13:00, and they will even if they have been informed not to, as you all well know. The road is rather narrow and the entrance, if it has not been moved further into the site, could accommodate only one car/caravan. There is another entrance to the lodges just a few metres down towards Killin which would be obstructed by those queuing up to get on the club site. I can envisage some very disgruntled visitors to those lodges wanting access/egress.

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nelliethehooker replied on 28/08/2022 21:30

Posted on 28/08/2022 20:33 by nelliethehooker

I think the major problem initially will be members arriving at Clachan before 13:00, and they will even if they have been informed not to, as you all well know. The road is rather narrow and the entrance, if it has not been moved further into the site, could accommodate only one car/caravan. There is another entrance to the lodges just a few metres down towards Killin which would be obstructed by those queuing up to get on the club site. I can envisage some very disgruntled visitors to those lodges wanting access/egress.

Posted on 28/08/2022 21:30

Edit.

Have just looked at the satellite view of the entrance and it is a single road in to both the site and the cabins, but it is deeper than I remembered,and I think that it will still be a problem should there be more than a couple of units waiting to access the site.

eurortraveller replied on 29/08/2022 09:06

Posted on 28/08/2022 20:33 by nelliethehooker

I think the major problem initially will be members arriving at Clachan before 13:00, and they will even if they have been informed not to, as you all well know. The road is rather narrow and the entrance, if it has not been moved further into the site, could accommodate only one car/caravan. There is another entrance to the lodges just a few metres down towards Killin which would be obstructed by those queuing up to get on the club site. I can envisage some very disgruntled visitors to those lodges wanting access/egress.

Posted on 29/08/2022 09:06

Simple answer is for the barrier to open and let them in. Yes before 1 pm. Even at breakfast time if there’s space inside.

There’s a multi storey car park I use now and then -the system there knows  if there’s space inside, and if there is then the barrier opens and lets me in. It doesn’t make me wait till 1 pm.  

Clachan club site has vacancies every day for the next three weeks.  If there’s space inside at Clachan customers need not be forced to wait. Let the ANPR system do it’s stuff.

And when it rolls out to other small sites then no more problems for wardens who are eating their lunch before they open up.

Revolution is happening.

 

Tinwheeler replied on 29/08/2022 09:18

Posted on 29/08/2022 09:18

"There’s a multi storey car park I use now and then -the system there knows if there’s space inside, and if there is then the barrier opens and lets me in. It doesn’t make me wait till 1 pm."

It's not a great comparison, Euro. Car park attendants don't need to cut grass, sweep up chippings, clip hedges or clean hook up bollards so of course they can have a quicker turnover of one out, one in.

An even simpler answer is for people not to turn up early.

young thomas replied on 29/08/2022 09:26

Posted on 29/08/2022 09:26

As Steve and DD have mentioned earlier, the CCP system lets folk in with a card and the availability is there for all to see on the app, just like a campsite, incl CAMC. 

If there's a space, you can go in...the clock starts ticking and you pay for the time you're there, just like the car park ET mentions....and many, many others.

at these establishments, there's no 'warden/office' to let you in, nor to pay, yet everyone pays for what they use..and there's no queuing because there's no arrival time. 

folk enter CCP and barrier controlled car parks when they arrive.

Even with a change to upgraded technology, it's still the 'bow wave' that causes the most problems.

'revolution' would mean a change to a free flow system where customers get what they want and technology enables it...

can you imagine a city car park where everyone has to wait until a certain time before they can get in..

folk have mentioned many times that some sites, in other places, don't have a queuing problem because folk trickle on and off site throughout the day. The objection has always been that CC couldn't possibly etc as it means having a manned office all day...

well ANPR and a sensible card billing process would eliminate that, and the queues.

the system knows the spaces, the customer has a card, the barrier knows the customer, the customer gets in and subsequently billed...

revolutionary, I know....😉

JVB66 replied on 29/08/2022 09:39

Posted on 29/08/2022 09:39

 There are many sites on this clubs network that do not have a queue at 1300 each day or even the weekend , it depends how popular and size of each siteundecided

It's just like multi storey car parks in some areas with. the queue of vehicles waiting for a space that will lift the access barrier wink

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