Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

replied on 01/01/2018 19:50

Posted on 01/01/2018 19:50

Alex, when towing on petrol alone what is the mpg?

Alex Cassells replied on 01/01/2018 20:00

Posted on 01/01/2018 20:00

Sorry Grant, I don't know for sure. Keep meaning to reset trip and work things out, but something always gets in the way. The things that I do know is that the tank is small at 45 litres and we usually have to stop for fuel after about 2 hours at most. We never leave it until the last minute and have seen us get between 120 and 160 miles before filling up. Probably not much help as these are just observations, nothing definite. Cheers.

replied on 01/01/2018 20:51

Posted on 01/01/2018 20:51

Thanks Alex

Cornersteady replied on 01/01/2018 21:29

Posted on 01/01/2018 19:44 by Alex Cassells

Hi Cornersteady, we tow with an Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV a hybrid. It is both plug in and regen braking. However when towing it mostly runs on the 2.2 petrol engine. The battery range when towing is around 20 miles, when solo just over 30 miles. Hope that helps, Cheers, Alex.

Posted on 01/01/2018 21:29

Thanks for that Alex, so how long would a plug in charge take? Using a standard three pin plug that is?

Alex Cassells replied on 01/01/2018 21:38

Posted on 01/01/2018 21:38

I'm told, a maximum of 6 hours, from totally flat. It's hard to verify that, for us at least, as we only ever charge overnight, when on-site. This is to ensure that nothing else is drawing power, or at least that no heating / water heating is on, to avoid a trip.

It was the same at home, before we had a charger installed. The battery was flat, plugged into 3 pin in garage when going to bed. Then the next morning, the battery is full.

Cornersteady replied on 01/01/2018 22:23

Posted on 01/01/2018 21:38 by Alex Cassells

I'm told, a maximum of 6 hours, from totally flat. It's hard to verify that, for us at least, as we only ever charge overnight, when on-site. This is to ensure that nothing else is drawing power, or at least that no heating / water heating is on, to avoid a trip.

It was the same at home, before we had a charger installed. The battery was flat, plugged into 3 pin in garage when going to bed. Then the next morning, the battery is full.

Posted on 01/01/2018 22:23

Thanks again

replied on 02/01/2018 01:46

Posted on 01/01/2018 10:29 by cariadon

Another question we need to ask the club is regarding charging business vehicles on site. I can understand them not charging for now EV used for leisure purposes, but what about people who stay on site and use their vehicles for business purposes, should they pay.

Posted on 02/01/2018 01:46

Cariadon, It's none of anyone elses business, except the car insurance company, what you use your car for. It's your car and you are entitled to use it for whatever you deem fit.

Regardless of whether the car is used for leisure or work or both, if you use your 3 pin socket to charge overnight, it will use less than the 16 amp output allowed on site otherwise the system would trip.

Metheven replied on 02/01/2018 10:11

Posted on 02/01/2018 10:11

Alex is correct, from flat to full with his PHEV.

Using the standard portable 2kW (8amp) mains draw charger from a 3 pin socket. Average cost of 14p/kWh in UK.

Outlander PHEV Hybrid has a 12kW battery, 6 hours. £1.68 cost.

Smartcar EV has a 17kw battery, 8/9 hours. £2.38 cost.

Nissan Leaf EV has a 40kW battery, 20 hours. £5.60 cost but would benefit from a fast charger as it would take too long and unsuitable for portable charging, unless just topping up.

RowenaBCAMC replied on 02/01/2018 10:41

Posted on 02/01/2018 10:41

Hi everyone, 

A polite request to ask that we please keep this discussion on track as it has drifted off topic on occasion, otherwise I will need to close it until we have a further response from the site operations team. 

Many thanks. 

cariadon replied on 02/01/2018 22:09

Posted on 02/01/2018 01:46 by

Cariadon, It's none of anyone elses business, except the car insurance company, what you use your car for. It's your car and you are entitled to use it for whatever you deem fit.

Regardless of whether the car is used for leisure or work or both, if you use your 3 pin socket to charge overnight, it will use less than the 16 amp output allowed on site otherwise the system would trip.

Posted on 02/01/2018 22:09

My question was regarding charging business vehicles on site, not questioning the use of vehicles.

It would become my business if inconsiderate people kept tripping the system while I'm on  site weather by using too many appliances or charging EV.  I'm sure others would feel the same if their late night TV viewing was interrupted by tripping bollards. .

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