Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

Oneputt replied on 03/01/2018 08:52

Posted on 03/01/2018 08:52

If it were any other commercial enterprise I'm sure the strategy group would be looking at this issue right now even though IMO it is unlikely to be a major issue for 5/10/20 years

replied on 03/01/2018 09:01

Posted on 03/01/2018 08:52 by Oneputt

If it were any other commercial enterprise I'm sure the strategy group would be looking at this issue right now even though IMO it is unlikely to be a major issue for 5/10/20 years

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:01

If the Club had any sense they would install just one meter on a site to check electricity usage to acquire  some hard facts.

Now whose site and pitch do you think they should install it on?  laughing

brue replied on 03/01/2018 09:12

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:12

There is quite a bit of Gov aid for installing charge points, I don't know whether this applies to leisure industry sites but certainly for work place and residential.

see here

replied on 03/01/2018 09:14

Posted on 03/01/2018 08:19 by

The Alde heating in nearly all caravans can run on 2 or even 3 kw. There are people that use it even on colder days in the summer let alone winter! They are using just as much electric or maybe even more electric than someone charging their EV. An EV can fully charge in six hours, the Alde heating is often left on 24 hours a day.

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:14

It matters not whether the Alde is set to 1, 2, 3kw. The over all energy required will be broadly the same. As Steve pointed out, in summer heating requirements over night will be modest as many set heating to 16, 17,18c overnight and ambient temperatures are unlikely to be significantly lower.

At present maybe 3 or 4 cars being charged at the very most on a 100 pitch site. 

replied on 03/01/2018 09:28

Posted on 03/01/2018 08:15 by SteveL

What other appliances are going to consume 2kw for hours on end, when the heating is not running? Even the aircon is only required a few days a year.

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:28

Summer only lasts for 3 months. There's Spring, Autumn and Winter when Alde heating on at least 2 kw is used to keep the caravan warm inside. This is often run 24 hours a day as opposed to the much smaller amount of electric consumed by an EV that is fully charged in six hours and consuming nothing the rest of the day.

brue replied on 03/01/2018 09:31

Posted on 02/01/2018 10:11 by Metheven

Alex is correct, from flat to full with his PHEV.

Using the standard portable 2kW (8amp) mains draw charger from a 3 pin socket. Average cost of 14p/kWh in UK.

Outlander PHEV Hybrid has a 12kW battery, 6 hours. £1.68 cost.

Smartcar EV has a 17kw battery, 8/9 hours. £2.38 cost.

Nissan Leaf EV has a 40kW battery, 20 hours. £5.60 cost but would benefit from a fast charger as it would take too long and unsuitable for portable charging, unless just topping up.

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:31

This was a good example of times and costs and certainly with a full EV a fast off site charge would be preferable at present.

SteveL replied on 03/01/2018 09:32

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:28 by

Summer only lasts for 3 months. There's Spring, Autumn and Winter when Alde heating at at least 2 kw is used to keep the caravan warm inside. This is often run 24 hours a day as opposed to the much smaller amount of electric consumed by an EV that is fully charged in six hours and consuming nothing the rest of the day.

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:32

Malcolm, your heating is on a thermostat. When we are away in spring and autumn our Alde is only actually on for a fraction of the 24 hours. Charging a car is like leaving an awning heater going all night.

replied on 03/01/2018 09:42

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:28 by

Summer only lasts for 3 months. There's Spring, Autumn and Winter when Alde heating on at least 2 kw is used to keep the caravan warm inside. This is often run 24 hours a day as opposed to the much smaller amount of electric consumed by an EV that is fully charged in six hours and consuming nothing the rest of the day.

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:42

Nights are not usually that cold for 7 months of the year. When an EV is not being charged the electric supply will be utilised as normal. Simple fact is that for over half a year someone charging an EV is likely to use significantly more electric. 

brue replied on 03/01/2018 09:42

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:42

It's also the time involved, faffing around for several hours with other appliances on or off would just be a nuisance (for us anyway.) Before OH installed a fast charger at home we often came home in the afternoon and need to start the charge straight away. If the car was my only vehicle on site I would be wary of not having access to it, rather like having a car with no diesel or petrol standing outside. Most people prefer to have their cars ready to go in whatever circumstances. At present we rarely run our battery down much at all due to this thought. Occasionally we give it a "good" charge which also bumps up the mileage.

Hybrids on sites at present have fuel at the ready, they can manage without the battery if needed.

replied on 03/01/2018 09:51

Posted on 03/01/2018 09:51

It's also the time involved, faffing around for several hours with other appliances on or off would just be a nuisance

I would not be faffing - I would be in bed! The faffing would be before charging and going to bed. and after getting up. 

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