Charging electric cars on Club sites.

Kjell, just for balance, i think you are absolutely right...

any EV charging made 'out of hours' will likely be in addition to the current level for 'night time' useage.

charging carried out during the day (when other devices may be in use) might cause those other devices to be switched off, to stay within the 16a limit.

however, it also might not, if there was sufficient spare 16a capacity to make use of.

in this second case, the EV charging is, again, in addition to what is the 'norm'.

if the 'new norm' (club budgetted usage) including EV charging is sufficiently more than the current one, the club will have to do something about it.

some trot out the well worn line...'Ive paid for it, ill do what i like with it'.

this is fine along as the total electricity used is within the Clubs budgetted estimate, upon which certain cost factors must be based....pitch fees for sure. 

assuming that the infrastructure would support it (which it cant) are some suggesting that we could all use appliances up to 16a for 24hrs a day and this would not have an effect on club costs...and therefore site fees?

After all we have paid for this level of service

There seems confusion here between kW and kWh, ie between power and energy.

I doubt anybody has concerns about people taking 16 Amps so having 3.68 kW of power when required, warming a van up or boiling a kettle for most users, neither being power taken at that level for hours on end.

Where the cost issue comes for the club and so ultimately back onto us is the kWhs being taken. Add fuelling vehicles into the service taken then the cost will increase above what it had been. Unless those taking that energy to charge vehicle forgo using the energy as they previously did. It is not some magical extra energy nobody is paying for.

We are going to Norfolk tomorrow so i have put our c/van out of storage on to a pitch for one night (oops sorry, not, if no w/end now available) back on subject met another member (in storage) who i have known for some years,and we got talking about EVs on sites,He works for one of our local MPs and can tell you some of what is in mind,and it will be Way into the future that full EV infrastructure is available,to enable what the "Headline Announcement" was stating, but Hybrids are accepted as the vehicles for the forseable future,all types,with batteries for urban areas,and they are not expecting charging to be free for the end users of either type away from their home address

The club has to and no doubt must be already considering the impact as a new infrastructure will be needed and soon. Site development typically has been on a leisurely timescale, the speed of this new role of having to fuel members vehicles could well catch the club and others out.

The CC does not have to provide for EE vehicles until such time as non provision might impact on bookings. That time is certainly several years off at least. 

Just out of interest, does anyone know if C&CC or commercial chain sites have a different policy from the club's towards charging EVs?

So we buy an EV to save the planet, then we don’t worry about wasting the electrical resource on site because we say we are entitled to use it to the maximum cos we paid for it.  Sorry that  just doesn’t compute with me

By using "zapmap" camp site charge points can be found. Although this doesn't indicate any policies.

see here for an example

I would imagine smaller private sites will make their own arrangements. I can't find any details with the C&CC. Is their forum talking about it, maybe a good subject to start, then wait for the official answers?

It will be interesting to see, I think the first impact will be an increase incidence of bollards and or the site feed dropping out. On a winters evening when users will be taking electrical power for space heating and a growing number are trying to top up their dual fuel hybrids.

Whether that alters booking or only "Ps" off wardens and other members is anybodies guess.

I doubt many sites are fed by services with such minisulce diversity factored in that they can carry much more load than today?

Replacing the members diesel & petrol energy, even in part, by plugging onto the electrical feeds was probably was not thought about some years back when the services were installed.

well you're estimate may be pie in the sky again there B, sorry, Grant but yes I personally would . The club sets out it prices and one has to decide if you want to pay for it. If not well don't. 

You see I don't think anyone (or mostly anyone) buys an EV or Hybrid to save the planet, more like saving the wallet. That's certainly why I'm thinking of getting a hybrid.