So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

replied on 16/03/2019 08:35

Posted on 16/03/2019 08:35

don't caravanners from the south need somewhere to 'night halt' when heading to the north, and vice versa?

In the past I might tow for 5.5 hours and take a night halt. Never had a problem booking ahead for a suitable site that met my needs. Pretty simple really. These days I choose to plan journeys differently. 

mickysf replied on 16/03/2019 09:33

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:33

So, can someone who is advocating these quick turnaround, transit, non electric, aire type pitches, call them what you will, advise me as to how many of these would be expected to be found on a site. Also, how many sites on the network should have them and where should these sites be located? Then advise me as to how many sites presently have the capacity for the likes?

Finally, given that space is already at a premium, what provision in you opinion must be sacrificed to make way for them and then how these pitches could be secured prior to arrival in order to facilitate one's own touring needs?

Navigateur replied on 16/03/2019 09:34

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:34

I would like to visit the south-west of England but a major concern about the practicality of considering it is the M6 and M5 motorways, and the way in which the police treat road users when there is a fatal accident.  There are frequent occasions when the motorway is closed for six, even eight, hours and I don't want to be stuck somewhere on a carriageway for that long even if fully equiped to do so.

An enforced stoppage of even four hours could screw up any prior arrangements to have a halt at normal site that has been booked ahead. So I would be very pleased to know that there were short stay on-demand places available throughout my journey, though how there would be a guarantee of a space being available where and when I needed it I can't understand.

moulesy replied on 16/03/2019 09:37

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:37

Although, there'd probably be several others on the same journey on the same route all looking for the same thing, Nav! undecided

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 09:37

Posted on 16/03/2019 08:13 by cyberyacht

Whilst there may be valid reasons why Night Stop facilities would be impractical, I find it surprising that the Club have been somewhat steadfast in its reluctance to provide "fill and drop" access if it really does want to be an all embracing club.

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:37

so you want the club to cater for a particular style of touring? At the expense of other members? This is really impractical, that the club should cater for all styles of touring to make it all embracing?

It is all embracing, all units, big, small, caravan, MH, can use a club site with the same set of rules applying at all. That is being inclusive.

Night stops are possible now.

Of curse if these rules are no to your liking, or your touring style even,  then don't join the club, it is often said no one is forced to by membership or stay at club sites.

moulesy replied on 16/03/2019 09:39

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:39

"don't caravanners from the south need somewhere to 'night halt' when heading to the north, and vice versa?"

Yes, we do - they're called CLs and we've very often returned to quite unexpected areas of the country having stopped off at one of them. smile

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 09:40

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:33 by mickysf

So, can someone who is advocating these quick turnaround, transit, non electric, aire type pitches, call them what you will, advise me as to how many of these would be expected to be found on a site. Also, how many sites on the network should have them and where should these sites be located? Then advise me as to how many sites presently have the capacity for the likes?

Finally, given that space is already at a premium, what provision in you opinion must be sacrificed to make way for them and then how these pitches could be secured prior to arrival in order to facilitate one's own touring needs?

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:40

as BB said LNA, or car parks or any spare space going (like play areas)

Members can all do without these to make way for that way of touring?

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 09:43

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:39 by moulesy

"don't caravanners from the south need somewhere to 'night halt' when heading to the north, and vice versa?"

Yes, we do - they're called CLs and we've very often returned to quite unexpected areas of the country having stopped off at one of them. smile

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:43

Yes, I mean you could even use a club site? That's a thought!

I think BB means "don't caravanners from the south need somewhere cheap to night halt..."

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 09:46

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:37 by moulesy

Although, there'd probably be several others on the same journey on the same route all looking for the same thing, Nav! undecided

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:46

Remember BB's prediction no booking, two days max, guaranteed pitch

I am not sure it will happen?

moulesy replied on 16/03/2019 09:48

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:48

Actually, I've just booked a C&CC site for 1 night at the start of a 3 week tour in May.

So, for a 1 night stop you can already use CAMC, C&CC, CLs, CSs, probably most commercial sites, Britstops, pub car parks, some LA car parks ... the list goes on and on. So where is the need for any extra provision, especially since it seems to be accompanied by not inconsiderable expenditure for a very questionable return? undecided

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