So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 16/03/2019 09:48

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:34 by Navigateur

I would like to visit the south-west of England but a major concern about the practicality of considering it is the M6 and M5 motorways, and the way in which the police treat road users when there is a fatal accident.  There are frequent occasions when the motorway is closed for six, even eight, hours and I don't want to be stuck somewhere on a carriageway for that long even if fully equiped to do so.

An enforced stoppage of even four hours could screw up any prior arrangements to have a halt at normal site that has been booked ahead. So I would be very pleased to know that there were short stay on-demand places available throughout my journey, though how there would be a guarantee of a space being available where and when I needed it I can't understand.

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:48

It works the same way from this direction, too.

Police will divert traffic off at the nearest exit - even by having you drive the wrong way on the carriageway if necessary. 

In 40+ years of travelling north we’ve not yet needed a night halt. Actually, the longest delay we’ve experienced was at Speen Bridge by the Commando Monument when a MH careered down the hill and came to a rapid halt in the village. 

mickysf replied on 16/03/2019 09:49

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:40 by Cornersteady

as BB said LNA, or car parks or any spare space going (like play areas)

Members can all do without these to make way for that way of touring?

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:49

Oh silly me and how selfish of me! embarassed

When ever, and it's been only a few times, we have needed to make an impromptu halt we've always found an alternative club site. Thankfully we already have that much appreciated ability to amend our bookings and stay just one night on all the network's club sites. 👍

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 10:07

Posted on 16/03/2019 10:07

we'll be booking a one nighter going down to Cromer later on this year. When we've done Norfolk in the past we've always stayed at Sandringham but (wait for it) I might even try a CL! 

mmm actually the fish and chip van at Sandringham was good last time.

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 10:08

Posted on 16/03/2019 09:49 by mickysf

Oh silly me and how selfish of me! embarassed

When ever, and it's been only a few times, we have needed to make an impromptu halt we've always found an alternative club site. Thankfully we already have that much appreciated ability to amend our bookings and stay just one night on all the network's club sites. 👍

Posted on 16/03/2019 10:08

yes do the same

Navigateur replied on 16/03/2019 10:18

Posted on 16/03/2019 10:18

where is the need for any extra provision,

I think I explained in my previous post a circumstance where I would need such provision to reassure me about making a journey. Just to clarify, CLs and any other site may not be able to accomodate a new arrival after 8pm - which could actually be some time through the night depending on when the police release the traffic.

Which is worse - being in the snail pace stop-start for hours as the traffic you are in is diverted off the motorway onto a road network congested by the extra traffic and no hope of getting a rest; or being stationary between the last open junction and the accident where one can at least go to bed for hours!

moulesy replied on 16/03/2019 10:24

Posted on 16/03/2019 10:24

Yes, Nav , but my point was that there is already ample provision for the casual ad hoc linear tourist. Your emergency scenario is quite different and, with the best will in the world, I can't see any organisation providing specific facilities on the "just in case" basis. An accident can happen anywhere along a journey, so are you saying you're unwilling to start out on a journey unless you're sure you'd be able to get such a spot at any point on the journey? You might be many miles form the nearest club site. I don't understand why you're implying that, if a pitch were available somewhere  in those circumstances, there'd be any problem about taking it up.

replied on 16/03/2019 10:31

Posted on 16/03/2019 10:31

If you are truly that fearful of being held up on route the answer is shorter hops to arrive before 1pm. Leaves plenty of time for sitting on motorways. 

replied on 16/03/2019 11:07

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Navigateur replied on 16/03/2019 11:25

Posted on 16/03/2019 11:25

David, I mentioned that very place a few days ago and explained how it is still there lying unused due to, I understand, long term visits from people in a different touring community.

Cornersteady replied on 16/03/2019 11:31

Posted on 16/03/2019 11:07 by

I used to stay on a camping area accessed from M6 Teebay services and found it very useful to be able to leave home early evening and be on the Scottish border for the night and a days run to Oban the following day but just googled it and it listed as permanently closed. That sort of provision was much more convenient than going out of ones way to a CL or club site pity there isn't more.

Posted on 16/03/2019 11:31

convenient and possibly free or extremely cheap you mean?

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