So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

moulesy replied on 15/03/2019 10:39

Posted on 15/03/2019 07:30 by cyberyacht

At the risk of further perpetuating the, sometimes acrimonious, debate I would proffer the following illustration.

A yacht club provides pontoon berths for its membership. However, the depth of water where this is to be provided is comparatively shallow and is not readily accessible to those who have yachts that have a deeper draft. Should the club dredge the area to provide access to all or take the view that they will just have to muddle through and put up with their yacht settling at an angle as the tide falls?

This is, I suggest, a similar proposition that is being debated here.

Posted on 15/03/2019 10:39

With respect, CY, I think the similarity ends at your words "access to all". Surely that's the case at present - anyone can access any of the available pitches on club sites. What is being proposed is the provision of "access to some" pitches, despite the frequent claims that caravanners could use these "new" pitches every bit as easily as MHers. Far easier options have been proposed but it seems that a small number of vociferous posters are completely unwilling to consider anything other that their own personal perfect scenario. Why they think the forum is the place to keep saying this rather than taking their views to the club AGM is beyond me (unless it's the possiblity that they actually accept that their proposals only have very limited support.)

ABM replied on 15/03/2019 11:22

Posted on 15/03/2019 11:22

I  guess  this  old  mulberry  bush  has  a  deep  and  wide  beaten  path  round  it  now  frown

Rufs replied on 15/03/2019 11:36

Posted on 15/03/2019 11:22 by ABM

I  guess  this  old  mulberry  bush  has  a  deep  and  wide  beaten  path  round  it  now  frown

Posted on 15/03/2019 11:36

oh yes !!!!! and it has probably achieved nothing except to keep a few people from "over there" and "over here" occupied. Sorry only replied because weather is rubbish and i am waiting for snooker club to open laughing

Tinwheeler replied on 15/03/2019 12:59

Posted on 15/03/2019 11:36 by Rufs

oh yes !!!!! and it has probably achieved nothing except to keep a few people from "over there" and "over here" occupied. Sorry only replied because weather is rubbish and i am waiting for snooker club to open laughing

Posted on 15/03/2019 12:59

That’s as good a reason as any for posting.👍🏻

replied on 15/03/2019 14:06

Posted on 15/03/2019 11:36 by Rufs

oh yes !!!!! and it has probably achieved nothing except to keep a few people from "over there" and "over here" occupied. Sorry only replied because weather is rubbish and i am waiting for snooker club to open laughing

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Navigateur replied on 15/03/2019 15:53

Posted on 15/03/2019 15:53

Should one go to a branch of Wagamma to eat, the credit/debit card is swiped on arrival and one can then order whatever is required.  When all are finished the card holder just leaves - no visit to till, no queue - just go out door.  The electronics totals the bill and debits the card. So that technology would allow final departures without involving the warden.

ANPR takes care of opening in and out barriers - though I caution against this being used to allow new arrivals unfettered access without a visual inspection as to what sort of outfit they have. Remember, plates can be cloned or stolen, and members change vehicles quicker than any registration might be updated.

And replacing the trip units in the bollards with ones containing a smart meter as part of the ongoing maintainance is likely to cost very little more (if at all) than fitting ones without. Instantly, every pitch can be non-EHU just by not using electricity without any human intervention.

Unbooked arrivals after 8 p.m. will probably require technology that has not yet been invented. However, something like a video link to the night watchman at East Grinsted House might be a starting point.

ABM replied on 15/03/2019 16:17

Posted on 15/03/2019 16:17

Naah, I'm  still  of  the  'Other  School'

  Without  disrespect  Navigateur  -- K  I S  S

I  can  just  imagine  a  glitch  in  the  works  causing  all  the  clubs  entry / exit  barriers  bouncing  up  and  down  all  night  long.

My  reasoning  is  the  rather  dodgy  IT  serving  this  site  --  well  would  you  trust  it  with  your  multi  £  thousand  'van  ??

 

SteveL replied on 15/03/2019 16:33

Posted on 15/03/2019 16:33

Should one go to a branch of Wagamma to eat, the credit/debit card is swiped on arrival and one can then order whatever is required. When all are finished the card holder just leaves - no visit to till, no queue - just go out door.

Never did like open tabs on a CC, so very easy for mistakes to be made. Even more so if you leave without finalising the total amount to be debited.

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