So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

replied on 08/03/2019 19:37

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:52 by Tinwheeler

Some MHs have fillers/drains on the offside, some on the nearside, some one each side so there’s no one size fits all with MHSPs unless a large piece of land is allocated. The slope at Dunnet Bay is nothing much and at least the service point isn’t on the one way system.

I don’t want the club to provide special facilities for me and other MH-ers at the expense of caravanners and, whilst I think it’s great that the MHSPs are being upgraded, I don't consider them essential as any accessible tap and drain will do the job. One of the biggest advantages of MHSPs is that they get our MHs off the site roads that we might otherwise block if we used the ordinary service points. I suppose it could be said that they benefit all.

 

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ATDel replied on 08/03/2019 19:40

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Now here's a thought.  This afternoon I was in the outdoor jacuzzi and struck up a conversation with a Swede, a German, and a French couple.  During a wide ranging conversation one asked if the others had visited the UK with their van.  Well to cut a very long story short, they had all been and two had used CC Ltd sites. After some joking they all agreed between themselves that "they were very expensive Aires or Stellplats".  I said but they are sold as UK campsites.  No, no said the German they are much too basic.  Aires said the French lady, no café, no shop and far from commerce.  

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:40

Now heres a thought, last year on site we had plenty of European motorhomes visit the site, many were German and many only booked for one night as they wanted to tour many also stayed more than one night as the site and area was very good, funny old world isnt it DD we all expect different things even shock horror our European cusins like different things.

You can use as many analogies to fit what you want it to but so can others

JVB66 replied on 08/03/2019 19:57

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:37 by

Strange that the site we are on has a one size fits all dump, which can also be used as a vehicle wash at no extra cost.  So far I have seen all sorts using it including an 11m RV, a 9.2m N&B, and a micro bus conversion.  It is just a simply matter of good design and construction.  

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:57

Now that is a suprise ,sounds like a real dump

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Posted on 08/03/2019 19:57 by JVB66

Now that is a suprise ,sounds like a real dump

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Tinwheeler replied on 08/03/2019 20:35

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:37 by

Strange that the site we are on has a one size fits all dump, which can also be used as a vehicle wash at no extra cost.  So far I have seen all sorts using it including an 11m RV, a 9.2m N&B, and a micro bus conversion.  It is just a simply matter of good design and construction.  

Posted on 08/03/2019 20:35

Why is that strange? Unless you’re on a club site.

Nobody's said it can’t be done as long as space permits.

 

JVB66 replied on 08/03/2019 20:48

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:37 by

Strange that the site we are on has a one size fits all dump, which can also be used as a vehicle wash at no extra cost.  So far I have seen all sorts using it including an 11m RV, a 9.2m N&B, and a micro bus conversion.  It is just a simply matter of good design and construction.  

Posted on 08/03/2019 20:48

Just a thought the cc site 3 miles from where we live has a multi use dump and also a concrete apron wash facility with water and ehu 

Navigateur replied on 08/03/2019 20:49

Posted on 08/03/2019 20:49

" no café, no shop and far from commerce. "

For where some of the, well attended, sites are located - such as Altnahara - the site IS the commerce.

Is there still a "Billy Butlin's Caravan Club" anymore?

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Posted on 08/03/2019 20:48 by JVB66

Just a thought the cc site 3 miles from where we live has a multi use dump and also a concrete apron wash facility with water and ehu 

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nelliethehooker replied on 08/03/2019 21:38

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:25 by

If folk want cheaper pitches then the CL can be ideal. Obviously cheaper pitches on CC sites would reduce their appeal.

Many CLs are in the £12 to £15 range. They must lose trade where a non faci;ty CC site is nearby I suspect

Posted on 08/03/2019 21:38

I think that it depends on location. There are lots of CLs close to the "old " Much Wenlock site which seemed to do very well  being full or nearly so the times that we've past them.

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Posted on 08/03/2019 20:49 by Navigateur

" no café, no shop and far from commerce. "

For where some of the, well attended, sites are located - such as Altnahara - the site IS the commerce.

Is there still a "Billy Butlin's Caravan Club" anymore?

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