So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

replied on 09/03/2019 07:10

Posted on 09/03/2019 06:58 by

You need to remember that quote came from a French visitor to the UK and if she was unprepared for the lack of shopping it would not suit at all.

We all need to eat and unless the trip has been planned with military precision with "iron rations"  visits to the shops are needed several times during a stay or at least they for us.smile

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peedee replied on 09/03/2019 07:10

Posted on 09/03/2019 07:10

You really are the master of not answering questions

Corners, your question was unworthy of a reply. I have made my points and Rowena has said she will seek feedback. That is enough for me. Its for the Club to decide where its market and profitability lie and for members and prospective members to decide whether the Club meets their needs. I can think of at least 3 ways the Club could improve, they have all been raised on CT before so I do not intend to point them out and prolong this thread further so don't ask but none of them are remotely connected with Aires.

I am certainly not overly concerned what the Club does or doesn't do. Should it not be meeting requirements, we are all free to consider what the alternatives are and is membership worth it.

peedee

replied on 09/03/2019 07:30

Posted on 09/03/2019 06:58 by

You need to remember that quote came from a French visitor to the UK and if she was unprepared for the lack of shopping it would not suit at all.

We all need to eat and unless the trip has been planned with military precision with "iron rations"  visits to the shops are needed several times during a stay or at least they for us.smile

Posted on 09/03/2019 07:30

The lady was not in danger of starving on the site outside the UK and was aware of the site type she wanted she wanted. So she wants somewhere near commerce with shops then there are plenty of alternatives. Others make different choices as they have different wants. 

 

replied on 09/03/2019 07:32

Posted on 09/03/2019 07:32

I am certainly not overly concerned what the Club does or doesn't do. Should it not be meeting requirements

It seems to meet the requirements of many and you can't please everyone. 

Cornersteady replied on 09/03/2019 07:43

Posted on 09/03/2019 07:10 by peedee

You really are the master of not answering questions

Corners, your question was unworthy of a reply. I have made my points and Rowena has said she will seek feedback. That is enough for me. Its for the Club to decide where its market and profitability lie and for members and prospective members to decide whether the Club meets their needs. I can think of at least 3 ways the Club could improve, they have all been raised on CT before so I do not intend to point them out and prolong this thread further so don't ask but none of them are remotely connected with Aires.

I am certainly not overly concerned what the Club does or doesn't do. Should it not be meeting requirements, we are all free to consider what the alternatives are and is membership worth it.

peedee

Posted on 09/03/2019 07:43

wow, mine was a simple question, would you use club sites if they had these short stay cheaper pitches 

Not worthy of a reply? I'll take that as a no then.

It is obvious you are not interested in using club sites, just posting 'improvements' that you personally will not use?

 

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The lady was not in danger of starving on the site outside the UK and was aware of the site type she wanted she wanted. So she wants somewhere near commerce with shops then there are plenty of alternatives. Others make different choices as they have different wants. 

 

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replied on 09/03/2019 08:12

Posted on 09/03/2019 07:43 by Cornersteady

wow, mine was a simple question, would you use club sites if they had these short stay cheaper pitches 

Not worthy of a reply? I'll take that as a no then.

It is obvious you are not interested in using club sites, just posting 'improvements' that you personally will not use?

 

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mickysf replied on 09/03/2019 08:32

Posted on 09/03/2019 08:32

As many have pointed out up thread the club has changed over the years and continues to change in several way for the benefit of not just motorhomers but all us members, folk can read them at their own leisure. However, probably the most significant change was that acceptance, inclusion and acknowledgement of MHs in the first place.
As far as I'm concerned I really cannot see what changes over and above those already being made are properly feasible or even required. Whilst enjoying good health and mobility I have no issues regarding potable or grey water, which in all honesty some caravaners can also experience the same difficulties too. We have always carried a waste container just in case but even this situation is improving albeit slowly with the introduction of service points for units with on board tanks.


To cut to the crux now, what a few are advocating is change which could have fundamental and costly implication for all of us. What they want is to penny pinch and in doing so pinch space which is either not there in the first place or pinch space already used for other purposes. And why, so they can spend single transit nights on sites across the network! Well folk, here is the news and I love this, we already can, it just costs the same as everyone else on site. Even with space which we know not to be available and money which probably isn't, the introduction of Aires, on sites, would not be beneficial financially or otherwise for the club or us members in my opinion.
I mentioned in an earlier post that we should be careful of what we wish for and I really believe this. Beware, someone, somewhere could just be about to suggest cutting our noses off to spite our faces. The Spector that is minimum nights, previously suggested by some as a solution to their booking problems and also lost income for the club, could raise its head and that would be a disaster for many motorhomers, particularly those advocating Aires or those tinkering but also caravaners alike. Tinkering with existing tariffs will also achieve little if anything. You have been warned!

young thomas replied on 09/03/2019 08:34

Posted on 09/03/2019 08:34

I'd also use them, but did qualify to M that the main issue for us touring here is the booking culture and how one has to be much more 'prepared' to commit to a planned tour.

having to arrive at a certain place due to the booking puts pressure on potential dawdling....similarly, having to leave at the end of a booking is an issue if we wanted to stay longer...

ok, perhaps in off season, getting these bookings altered to extend or shorten might be doable (but more hassle than I'm interested in) but as we really only use the van here in 'good weather' (and sometimes New Year) a lot of sites are booked which makes alterations even less desirable.

now, if the transit pitches really were for passing trade......no booking, or book a max of one day in advance and max duration of one/two nights etc...they would serve the purpose many are advocating....making impromptu touring easier, yet still have a pitch guaranteed on arrival.

no leccy, large enough for caravans too, £12 max a night?

Ps, Mickey....I'm advocating max no of nights on these not min number which you seem so concerned about. I was thinking about fast turnover...and a decent price (not penny pinching) for a 'transit-style' pitch...

Tinwheeler replied on 09/03/2019 08:43

Posted on 09/03/2019 08:12 by

I'll answer your question Corners.  Yes.  But how about another solution with no need to alter the sites.  Make the first night of any stay on any pitch half price.  Those that only want one transit night benefit as do those staying longer.  Don't get bogged down with the figures, maybe a reduction of a third on the first two nights would work better.  Perhaps no reduction on Friday and Saturday nights may be a needed restriction, etc.

Posted on 09/03/2019 08:43

“Perhaps no reduction on Friday and Saturday nights may be a needed restriction, etc.” 

Hey, why not call it ‘Mid Week Discount’?👍🏻

 

 

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