So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/03/2019 18:15

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:15

I thought a tiny (really tiny) majority of UK voters had decided it had had enough of Europe deciding what this country needs? 

Ayrshire is off my touring map for moment as well. At least until French have sorted out a small nuclear reactor issue.......

Cornersteady replied on 08/03/2019 18:36

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:15 by Takethedogalong

I thought a tiny (really tiny) majority of UK voters had decided it had had enough of Europe deciding what this country needs? 

Ayrshire is off my touring map for moment as well. At least until French have sorted out a small nuclear reactor issue.......

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:36

not only that but is DD saying these few actually represent what is really 'thought'?

Is so that extrapolation on a totally fantastic scale.

Cornersteady replied on 08/03/2019 18:37

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:15 by Takethedogalong

I thought a tiny (really tiny) majority of UK voters had decided it had had enough of Europe deciding what this country needs? 

Ayrshire is off my touring map for moment as well. At least until French have sorted out a small nuclear reactor issue.......

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:37

very good point

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Posted on 08/03/2019 17:42 by moulesy

And no mention of Brexit? ! ! surprised

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Tinwheeler replied on 08/03/2019 18:52

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:21 by DustyRhoades

The crux of the original post is still not answered, motorhome services at club sites are woefully inadequate. If has taken 32 years to get a few grates for grey water draining rather than a 'manhole cover' then that shows to continuing 'caravan' attitude to club site refurbishments.

Even the latest refurbishments only allow partial tank emptying or filling due to the slope at the designated 'motorhome service points' (Tewkesbury, Dunnet Bay)


We often have to go against the 'one way' systems to drain our grey water tanks or fill with fresh water due to the lack of a suitable layout a the service area.

 

Posted on 08/03/2019 18:52

Some MHs have fillers/drains on the offside, some on the nearside, some one each side so there’s no one size fits all with MHSPs unless a large piece of land is allocated. The slope at Dunnet Bay is nothing much and at least the service point isn’t on the one way system.

I don’t want the club to provide special facilities for me and other MH-ers at the expense of caravanners and, whilst I think it’s great that the MHSPs are being upgraded, I don't consider them essential as any accessible tap and drain will do the job. One of the biggest advantages of MHSPs is that they get our MHs off the site roads that we might otherwise block if we used the ordinary service points. I suppose it could be said that they benefit all.

 

JayOutdoors replied on 08/03/2019 19:07

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:21 by DustyRhoades

The crux of the original post is still not answered, motorhome services at club sites are woefully inadequate. If has taken 32 years to get a few grates for grey water draining rather than a 'manhole cover' then that shows to continuing 'caravan' attitude to club site refurbishments.

Even the latest refurbishments only allow partial tank emptying or filling due to the slope at the designated 'motorhome service points' (Tewkesbury, Dunnet Bay)


We often have to go against the 'one way' systems to drain our grey water tanks or fill with fresh water due to the lack of a suitable layout a the service area.

 

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:07

DustyRhoades -  Hopefully we will get some feedback as Rowena posted this earlier today.  "With regards to this discussion, "thank you to those for your constructive comments, which I have forwarded to my colleagues for their reference and feedback." 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/03/2019 19:13

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:13

Would a longer hose not be adequate for filling off a slope? It certainly works for us, we park level and then take hose to tap. We have also been rather surprised at how many of the drive over grids have been installed in last few years, initially it was thought this type of upgrade was going to take much longer. Not that we use many Club Sites, but we have noticed this. 

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Posted on 08/03/2019 18:05 by JVB66

Reading your usual way off the mark diatribe trying to compare both major clubs type of site  with what it seems is a Haven type holiday camp , that most in this country and the hundreds or maybe thousands of visitors from "over there" who continue to keep coming over here and use club sites ,which are what they want  ,and are on a par and in a lot of instances better than a lot of Camp sites "over there"if reading site reviews about them

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JVB66 replied on 08/03/2019 19:33

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Your post is incomprehensible to me.  

Posted on 08/03/2019 19:33

As if yours made any real  sense

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