So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

peedee replied on 08/03/2019 16:41

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:06 by Cornersteady

and these small CL would lose that custom and have to shut? Good idea PD 

It appears you want all the benefits of a club site but with CL prices. assuming of course you would use them?

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:41

CL sites exist alongside the Club's low facilitiy sites with out going out of business so what makes you thing it would force the closure of CLs just because the Club provides a few more low facility pitches or sites for motorhomes. 

What makes you think I would not use them Corners?

peedee

Takethedogalong replied on 08/03/2019 16:41

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:41

I doubt in truth it’s much about price. PD, unless I am mistaken has quite a large MH? Large to me would be 7 metres plus? I would be more wary of grass pitches in this country, with a larger heavier MH. We choose our CLs wisely, but because we are quite small, and have gone to the trouble of purchasing suitable waffles, we have extended the range of CLs we can use. Plus we are wise enough to phone a site if the weather forecast doesn’t look too good. What we have learned as well, is that quite a few CLs are happy for members to utilise whatever HS might be available, if it’s a short stay, and your hook up cable reaches! Hence we have parked up next to tanks, farm vehicles, barns etc.... just to sleep and park safely. 

I don’t care about Club losing out on too much of what we spend, purely because most Club Sites are not what we consider our perfect site. A stunning location, solitude, being close to nature, peace and quiet are the things we don’t mind paying for. Very occasionally, usually in the Winter months, somewhere like Bolton Abbey Site, we could find this. Sadly no more, Club Site seasons are getting shorter.

Takethedogalong replied on 08/03/2019 16:55

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:55

I don’t think it matters what folks use for touring/staying. The main thing is that there are places that suit every conceivable type of outfit, at least fairly mainstream. Some of the Club Sites won’t suit certain outfits, but others will. Some CLs/CS Sites won’t suit everything. But there are plenty of options out there for everyone. 

Reminds me of coming back from a day out, to find an absolutely enormous self built MH rig parked up on CL. What interested us was the automated self levelling system. We had total respect for these all year tourers, they had negotiated a seriously tight roadway and entrance, were parked up on grass. Nothing seemed to phase them. We had a real good chat with them. It was the kind of CL where you just picked your space, and that was your pitch. Our enormous neighbours were very considerate and didn’t shade our little caravan.😄

DustyRhoades replied on 08/03/2019 17:21

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:21

The crux of the original post is still not answered, motorhome services at club sites are woefully inadequate. If has taken 32 years to get a few grates for grey water draining rather than a 'manhole cover' then that shows to continuing 'caravan' attitude to club site refurbishments.

Even the latest refurbishments only allow partial tank emptying or filling due to the slope at the designated 'motorhome service points' (Tewkesbury, Dunnet Bay)


We often have to go against the 'one way' systems to drain our grey water tanks or fill with fresh water due to the lack of a suitable layout a the service area.

 

mickysf replied on 08/03/2019 17:23

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:31 by

Indeed the American Style motorhome I saw 10 years ago at Cheltenham towing a Range Rover might have had problems on some sites

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:23

I saw one a few years back which was pulling a Romahome motorhome. Now that's covering all options! However, when issues are concerned regarding getting on to pitches it's the dimensions which dictate not the type of unit. That's why on these sites the club states dimensions which necessitate restrictions and not type.

I still can't think of one single site which would be wrong for me just because I have a motorhome and certainly none which should in effect ban them.

replied on 08/03/2019 17:25

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:41 by peedee

CL sites exist alongside the Club's low facilitiy sites with out going out of business so what makes you thing it would force the closure of CLs just because the Club provides a few more low facility pitches or sites for motorhomes. 

What makes you think I would not use them Corners?

peedee

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:25

If folk want cheaper pitches then the CL can be ideal. Obviously cheaper pitches on CC sites would reduce their appeal.

Many CLs are in the £12 to £15 range. They must lose trade where a non faci;ty CC site is nearby I suspect

Cornersteady replied on 08/03/2019 17:32

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:41 by peedee

CL sites exist alongside the Club's low facilitiy sites with out going out of business so what makes you thing it would force the closure of CLs just because the Club provides a few more low facility pitches or sites for motorhomes. 

What makes you think I would not use them Corners?

peedee

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:32

CL sites exist alongside the Club's low facilitiy sites with out going out of business so what makes you thing it would force the closure of CLs just because the Club provides a few more low facility pitches or sites for motorhomes.

because you said:

CLs/CSs with hardstanding so the Club is losing out on a large chunk of what I spend on my motorhome nights away. If the Club wants to attract this revenue...

I assumed, perhaps wrongly that you would expect others to follow your example so if the club attracted this revenue that would have gone to CLs, the CLs lose income don't they?

I think it is safe to assume that if the club did use this approach CL would lose out and may have to shut.

What makes you think I would not use them Corners?

You really are the master of not answering questions, does that 'answer' mean you would use them or would not? It's a simple question, can you answer yes or no? If you can't...

 

Cornersteady replied on 08/03/2019 17:33

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:25 by

If folk want cheaper pitches then the CL can be ideal. Obviously cheaper pitches on CC sites would reduce their appeal.

Many CLs are in the £12 to £15 range. They must lose trade where a non faci;ty CC site is nearby I suspect

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:33

+1

replied on 08/03/2019 17:36

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:36

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moulesy replied on 08/03/2019 17:40

Posted on 08/03/2019 17:40

I made exactly this point about CLs the last time this topic was raised. The response was that the folk who wanted "quick turnaround" pitches (or whatever label one wants to use) were a completely different set of people from those who use CLs. My conclusion is that there are folk who join the club, don't like their sites and don't like CLs. I'm sure they'd be equally quick to find something to object to if the club ever did decide to provide what they're asking for. frown

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