So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/03/2019 13:00

Posted on 08/03/2019 13:00

It is nice,when we use our MH, to be able to stop and sleep the odd night somewhere safe and cheap, but we do this relatively easy now as it is, without using Club Sites. The difference for us is that we know we won’t have too many issues getting a small MH parked up in towns anywhere. So we can easily choose just to have the odd transit night on a pretty, safe, budget CL. If it proves a really nice, pretty, safe, budget CL, it becomes a regular stop, and sometimes we stay a few nights to explore the area. Done this with caravan as well.

The real issue is the size of the MH. If it’s too big for our small roads, car parking spaces, and those park ups that are protected by height barriers, then this country is more difficult than overseas. (Having witnessed a couple of traveller invasions, I have no issues with height barriers) If it’s so big that it’s left on pitch all stay, then to me it’s just a big (literally) white elephant, a MH that doesn’t Motor. Easier to deal with on site, but life is more difficult for getting around. Some Club Sites are excellent if this is the case, YRP, Bristol, Moreton, others with decent transport links. Others are more about getting out somewhere truly lovely, middle of National Park somewhere. 

peedee replied on 08/03/2019 13:56

Posted on 08/03/2019 13:56

It is nice,when we use our MH, to be able to stop and sleep the odd night somewhere safe and cheap, but we do this relatively easy now as it is, without using Club Sites. The difference for us is that we know we won’t have too many issues getting a small MH parked up in towns anywhere. So we can easily choose just to have the odd transit night on a pretty, safe, budget CL. If it proves a really nice, pretty, safe, budget CL, it becomes a regular stop, and sometimes we stay a few nights to explore the area. Done this with caravan as well.

And that is my point TTDA, I do much the same but with a preference for CLs/CSs with hardstanding so the Club is losing out on a large chunk of what I spend on my motorhome nights away. If the Club wants to attract this revenue, then for short stays it has to make itself more attractive.

peedee

mickysf replied on 08/03/2019 14:14

Posted on 08/03/2019 14:14

And then there are those really big caravans which need American style 4X4 vehicles to pull them, I think they are called 5th Wheeler Caravans. Will they also want special pitches exclusive to them? 

 

replied on 08/03/2019 14:25

Posted on 08/03/2019 14:25

To be truthful Peedee I am happy that there are CLs that meet your need and are happy that they get your trade. Your money might not be going directly into CC coffers but many use the club partly or primarily to access these CLs. I rarely use them these days and probably not in the last twenty years but value them highly as I used many in the past and I suspect will start to use the odd one to fill in gaps on tours in future. 

replied on 08/03/2019 14:28

Posted on 08/03/2019 14:14 by mickysf

And then there are those really big caravans which need American style 4X4 vehicles to pull them, I think they are called 5th Wheeler Caravans. Will they also want special pitches exclusive to them? 

 

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mickysf replied on 08/03/2019 14:40

Posted on 08/03/2019 14:28 by

Hopefully JK will put you straight on this, but I think you will find that most 5th wheel rigs are no longer than a large twin axle and big 4x4 unit.

Posted on 08/03/2019 14:40

My point entirely, what's in the name as that is all it is? We are all in the same 'boat' together and clearly our vans can live alongside each other quite happily. It's some owners which cause the issues. 

Those 5th wheeler caravans need no special attention and are not barred from any sites as long as I'm aware  although there may be the odd pitch that these caravans and a some larger motorhomes may have some difficulties. There are a few sites which do preclude longer units but this applies to all types of  vans be they caravans or motorhomes. 

Cornersteady replied on 08/03/2019 16:06

Posted on 08/03/2019 13:56 by peedee

It is nice,when we use our MH, to be able to stop and sleep the odd night somewhere safe and cheap, but we do this relatively easy now as it is, without using Club Sites. The difference for us is that we know we won’t have too many issues getting a small MH parked up in towns anywhere. So we can easily choose just to have the odd transit night on a pretty, safe, budget CL. If it proves a really nice, pretty, safe, budget CL, it becomes a regular stop, and sometimes we stay a few nights to explore the area. Done this with caravan as well.

And that is my point TTDA, I do much the same but with a preference for CLs/CSs with hardstanding so the Club is losing out on a large chunk of what I spend on my motorhome nights away. If the Club wants to attract this revenue, then for short stays it has to make itself more attractive.

peedee

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:06

and these small CL would lose that custom and have to shut? Good idea PD 

It appears you want all the benefits of a club site but with CL prices. assuming of course you would use them?

JVB66 replied on 08/03/2019 16:23

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:23

This whole thread by the "nothing is done"by the club for motor caravanners,posters, has mostly been it seems , that the club should make available to motor caravans a "cheap"stopover on club sites without any, it seems thought, as to in the real world it could be implemented ,and anything that works "over there"is easy to export to the UK,  when over here, it is not the way it is ,and with much shorter distances and the higher cost of providing such facilities, it will not be the the nevania some hope for

replied on 08/03/2019 16:31

Posted on 08/03/2019 14:28 by

Hopefully JK will put you straight on this, but I think you will find that most 5th wheel rigs are no longer than a large twin axle and big 4x4 unit.

Posted on 08/03/2019 16:31

Indeed the American Style motorhome I saw 10 years ago at Cheltenham towing a Range Rover might have had problems on some sites

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