So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

viatorem replied on 08/03/2019 10:21

Posted on 08/03/2019 10:16 by mickysf

And that was passed by 100% of the electorate being caravaners.wink

Posted on 08/03/2019 10:21

My late father voted against it as he saw motorhomer requirements being different to caravans with the view that another club could have been formed to cater more specifically to the needs of motorhomers.Lost opportunity?

Navigateur replied on 08/03/2019 11:20

Posted on 08/03/2019 10:06 by viatorem

Quote from history of the club.

1967

A motion to allow motor caravanners to become members of The Club is carried.

 

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:20

And since 1967, which is well over 50 years, the use of motor caravans has been part of the club ethos. These have ranged from the converted car-derived van to hugh behomeths requiring a tractor unit to move them around.  Quite a few sites, some of them Caravan Club, have embraced caravans that are static as well. And all have lived happily together.

Then just a few years ago, along come people wanting to be called "motorhomers" for some reason, and to be treated differently. I'm lost as to why they want to mix with caravanners at all.

mickysf replied on 08/03/2019 11:28

Posted on 08/03/2019 10:21 by viatorem

My late father voted against it as he saw motorhomer requirements being different to caravans with the view that another club could have been formed to cater more specifically to the needs of motorhomers.Lost opportunity?

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:28

Of that 100% of caravaners voting it would be interesting to know the majority that passed this. 52% for, 48% against? wink Obviously the majority, whatever it was, was the enlightened, trail blazing and foreword thinking caravaners!cool

Tinwheeler replied on 08/03/2019 11:52

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:52

Nav, I call mine a motorhome purely because the abbreviation MH is easy. If I started typing MC you’d think I meant motorcycle. 

No way can my 6m PVC be classed as a motorhome in most people’s minds. 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/03/2019 11:55

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:55

I am sure that anyone reading some of the stuff on this thread would think some sort of “ism” to protect the rights of caravanners and motorhome owners is required. But in the real world, out there on the roads, pitched amongst the daffodils, (or in some cases the Aldi deliveries), it simply isn’t. The vast majority of owners happily choose their site, pitch up safely and comfortably and just get on doing their own thing. The Club provides, improves and evolves for all its members much as it has done down the decades. Some will like and embrace the changes, some will grumble but get used to them, others will decide it’s not for them and leave. 

Yorkshire is starting to recognise that some tourers in MHs appreciate overnight stops. Both Pickering and Helmsley now have overnight provision within a couple of hundred metres of town centres, and I am sure there are a good few more examples. I will set up a thread and list them as we find them with details. There are some “traditional” stop off places for caravans as well, for taking a breather on a long journey. 

moulesy replied on 08/03/2019 12:12

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:55 by Takethedogalong

I am sure that anyone reading some of the stuff on this thread would think some sort of “ism” to protect the rights of caravanners and motorhome owners is required. But in the real world, out there on the roads, pitched amongst the daffodils, (or in some cases the Aldi deliveries), it simply isn’t. The vast majority of owners happily choose their site, pitch up safely and comfortably and just get on doing their own thing. The Club provides, improves and evolves for all its members much as it has done down the decades. Some will like and embrace the changes, some will grumble but get used to them, others will decide it’s not for them and leave. 

Yorkshire is starting to recognise that some tourers in MHs appreciate overnight stops. Both Pickering and Helmsley now have overnight provision within a couple of hundred metres of town centres, and I am sure there are a good few more examples. I will set up a thread and list them as we find them with details. There are some “traditional” stop off places for caravans as well, for taking a breather on a long journey. 

Posted on 08/03/2019 12:12

Couldn't agree more! The vast, vast majority of vanners and MHers always have and, likely, always will co-exist absolutely happily side by side be they pitched up on a club site or wherever else. Like last year, we'll be using mainly CLs this year. Thinking back to last year, I find it hard to remember what type of outfits any of our neighbours used, or how often they came and went from the site. We were too busy doing our own thing! smile

mickysf replied on 08/03/2019 12:18

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:55 by Takethedogalong

I am sure that anyone reading some of the stuff on this thread would think some sort of “ism” to protect the rights of caravanners and motorhome owners is required. But in the real world, out there on the roads, pitched amongst the daffodils, (or in some cases the Aldi deliveries), it simply isn’t. The vast majority of owners happily choose their site, pitch up safely and comfortably and just get on doing their own thing. The Club provides, improves and evolves for all its members much as it has done down the decades. Some will like and embrace the changes, some will grumble but get used to them, others will decide it’s not for them and leave. 

Yorkshire is starting to recognise that some tourers in MHs appreciate overnight stops. Both Pickering and Helmsley now have overnight provision within a couple of hundred metres of town centres, and I am sure there are a good few more examples. I will set up a thread and list them as we find them with details. There are some “traditional” stop off places for caravans as well, for taking a breather on a long journey. 

Posted on 08/03/2019 12:18

Fully agree, And these are the very providers who should be encouraged, Both private concerns and councils could and can do this far better in my opinion with that fixed focus on this specialist if not niche market.

Our club is a network of sites across the country and, despite the opinions of a few, is in my opinion, inclusive to all forms of caravaners be they motorised or otherwise. Like all things in life some may have prefererences and needs but at least no site or pitch is barred to me and I can stay for that one night or several nights (when vacancy allows) on all. It is inclusive.

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