So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

young thomas replied on 06/03/2019 18:06

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:06

now M, you know I like all types of sites...the actual reply you quoted was to address the misguided perception that cub sites are near the top of the camping quality tree...

I'm afraid that anyone who has been on a decent quality site will know they're pretty much basic but clean and consistent in what they offer.

this doesn't make them poor (JVB) it just means they aren't the dogs doodaah's when it comes to campsites...

just my opinion of course....but an equally valid one as anyone else's.

again, we are having a one nighter in Gibraltar (after a three nighter at Cadiz) and don't require any facilities at all (we have power, water and grey/black emptied this morning) so just a parking place.

i (along with about 30 other MHs) am looking out in the setting sun onto millions of pounds worth of yachts, in one of Europe's most exclusive marinas...to park tonight €12...

now I'd happily pay that to park, no leccy, transit pitch etc, on a club site in a place I wish to be....

perhaps the simple pitch concept should bea long snake, where no side to side 6m spacing is required, only 3m front to rear...and cars/caravans most welcome....after all, it's an inclusive club. 

young thomas replied on 06/03/2019 18:08

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:57 by JVB66

I think it means as here ,the car park has 5 of the 7 bay's occupied with members add cars 

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:08

what are 'members add cars' in English?

why should any member have two cars with them?

Navigateur replied on 06/03/2019 18:13

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:13

Despite what we see here on CT, caravanners (whether towing or motorised) are sociable animals and have friends and relatives who come to visit.

There is also the anomoly of the motor caravans that have more bunks than legal travel seats.

JVB66 replied on 06/03/2019 18:45

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:08 by young thomas

what are 'members add cars' in English?

why should any member have two cars with them?

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:45

One is at work and the OH has his/hers for daily use,sites and their clientele are very diverse these days and both cars will be around at night and the weekendwink

SteveL replied on 06/03/2019 18:58

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:08 by young thomas

what are 'members add cars' in English?

why should any member have two cars with them?

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:58

Not that unusual BB particularly at weekends. We certain did on our local site when both working. OH didn't finish until 10pm, myself at 5pm, so I set the van up, she joined me later. I would have happily paid the £2 for an extra car on pitch, however most sites don't want you to do this, despite there being room if no awning is erected.

Takethedogalong replied on 06/03/2019 19:02

Posted on 06/03/2019 19:02

We have done the two car thing as well. Some of us have to commute between caring duties. It’s not that uncommon.

Cornersteady replied on 06/03/2019 19:06

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:06 by young thomas

now M, you know I like all types of sites...the actual reply you quoted was to address the misguided perception that cub sites are near the top of the camping quality tree...

I'm afraid that anyone who has been on a decent quality site will know they're pretty much basic but clean and consistent in what they offer.

this doesn't make them poor (JVB) it just means they aren't the dogs doodaah's when it comes to campsites...

just my opinion of course....but an equally valid one as anyone else's.

again, we are having a one nighter in Gibraltar (after a three nighter at Cadiz) and don't require any facilities at all (we have power, water and grey/black emptied this morning) so just a parking place.

i (along with about 30 other MHs) am looking out in the setting sun onto millions of pounds worth of yachts, in one of Europe's most exclusive marinas...to park tonight €12...

now I'd happily pay that to park, no leccy, transit pitch etc, on a club site in a place I wish to be....

perhaps the simple pitch concept should bea long snake, where no side to side 6m spacing is required, only 3m front to rear...and cars/caravans most welcome....after all, it's an inclusive club. 

Posted on 06/03/2019 19:06

interesting. But within the last few days you posted that you were sure there are many users of club sites that only used them because they were too timid to go elsewhere because they could not be assured of getting the same quality as club sites? If club sites, in your opinion, are so ordinary why are people so timid to not try other sites?  

Also if they are so ordinary why are they so full? Apart from the above of course which I think is just a big insult to club users. It could be that they are good better and better than most?

moulesy replied on 06/03/2019 19:10

Posted on 06/03/2019 18:58 by SteveL

Not that unusual BB particularly at weekends. We certain did on our local site when both working. OH didn't finish until 10pm, myself at 5pm, so I set the van up, she joined me later. I would have happily paid the £2 for an extra car on pitch, however most sites don't want you to do this, despite there being room if no awning is erected.

Posted on 06/03/2019 19:10

Same here - when we were working I'd tow up on a Thursday evening to get set up for the weekend. And, of course, because I'd be leaving very early the following morning I'd park in the car park to avoid any annoyance to neighbouring vans. I don'the think mine was ever the only car in the car park. smile

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