So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

mickysf replied on 06/03/2019 16:03

Posted on 06/03/2019 16:03

" .... many Club sites and most CLs are in the wrong place for motorhomers."

Again another example of stereotyping motorhomers which attributes us all with the same requirements, wishes and needs. I've yet to turn up at a club site or CL to find it in the wrong place!

Tinwheeler replied on 06/03/2019 16:17

Posted on 06/03/2019 16:17

I generally know where sites are well before I arrive. Wrong place? Have wheels, will travel.

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Posted on 06/03/2019 13:58 by

I suggest that you went wrong in your first paragraph.

In that case I cannot see that you would want to be a member if you think that they are poor standard. But that  is the problem. Knowing what people want and I may well be wrong.

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Navigateur replied on 06/03/2019 17:04

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:04

They do not have nightclubs, fairgrounds, football pitches, and other centres of raucous behaviour.

young thomas replied on 06/03/2019 17:04

Posted on 06/03/2019 12:37 by

and the desire to kick something off and trial it is all that's needed....

Or should that be 'the desire to kick members vehicles off the car park to make way for BB and CO.'?

 

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:04

surely the members' vehicles are on the members' pitch next to their caravan?undecided

young thomas replied on 06/03/2019 17:09

Posted on 06/03/2019 13:00 by Rufs

think a couple of sentences in your post raise an interesting question

So it’s got nothing to do with caravans being favoured over MH’s. It’s more that MHs have become more popular in this country,

Putting in drive over waste drains is good, but it’s more of a health and safety issue and a nod towards the age of those taking up MH ownership in this country, ie bending and lifting are now difficult.

 by implication, and correct me if i am wrong, your inference is that it is the current older generation who are making Mh'ing so popular

and the question, so , how long will MH's be so popular ?, can the younger generation afford such luxury items?. A £50k MH for example is quite a few all inclusives, and I saw an advert only this morning for Easy Jet, £49 return to Menorca, whats that a couple of hundred miles in a MH or car tugging.

also with the advent of EV's and banishing diesel, will MH's continue to be so popular.

If i was writing a business case for building new infrastucture to accomodate MH's I would certainly be asking these questions as a starting item.

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:09

last week I was talking to a friend of our camping neighbours who was interested in changing to a MH...he mentioned cost...and then calmly told me his current outfit (Range rover and top line Swift) was 'around £90k'...so don't kid anyone caravanning isn't (or can't be) as significant an investment as a MH...

young thomas replied on 06/03/2019 17:18

Posted on 06/03/2019 14:13 by Cornersteady

except that a lot of people stay on club sites and think the same as you?

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:18

well, I agree with DD, they certainly aren't at the top end....

more middle of the road, but consistently middle of the road, and that is the club strength....all sites are pretty well of equal standard...

where each member puts that standard, only they can know.

even in third world Portugal last week, Turiscampo knocks any club site I've been on into a cocked hat for quality of the toilet/shower facilities alone....never mind the additionally provided amenities, etc.

moulesy replied on 06/03/2019 17:27

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:18 by young thomas

well, I agree with DD, they certainly aren't at the top end....

more middle of the road, but consistently middle of the road, and that is the club strength....all sites are pretty well of equal standard...

where each member puts that standard, only they can know.

even in third world Portugal last week, Turiscampo knocks any club site I've been on into a cocked hat for quality of the toilet/shower facilities alone....never mind the additionally provided amenities, etc.

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:27

So which are you actually wanting the club to spend money on then, BB? Basic drive away pitches or "up market toilet/showers and additional amenities"? undecided

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Posted on 06/03/2019 17:04 by Navigateur

They do not have nightclubs, fairgrounds, football pitches, and other centres of raucous behaviour.

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JVB66 replied on 06/03/2019 17:57

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:04 by young thomas

surely the members' vehicles are on the members' pitch next to their caravan?undecided

Posted on 06/03/2019 17:57

I think it means as here ,the car park has 5 of the 7 bay's occupied with members add cars 

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