Should the Club put it's foot down?

 Maybe we are all paying for yours - who knows?

I wish somebody would. 

whenever there is a thread which concerns CC change, we get the inevitible 'scary numbers' which refer to the total costs for the whole club network...and, of course, this all sounds like a lot of money....even putting in MHSP or WIFI on every site comes to a large number, despite the actual cost per site being pretty modest.

other sites, some in 'other places', seem to be able to 'afford' to make these improvements but the cry is then that they 'are only doing it for one site'.

however, while the club has expenses across the whole network it also has a healthy income from each of these numerous sites where individually, getting an improvement carried out, each site can manage it as easily as any other single commercial site.

even if the project were costed for the 200 odd sites (even better, cheaper for economies of scale) the coffers are refilled with 200 odd times the income.

yes, the overall numbers are high and its easy to bandy these about to make it sound un-doable, but other sites (including small commercial chains) manage infrastructure and technical improvements to stay in touch with modern vanning thinking/requirements.

its really all down to the desire to do these things. as long as customers are happy paying ever rising fees to cover increased electric costs the club seems little interested.

after all, a few notices in the gents come fairly cheaply.

other sites, some in 'other places', seem to be able to 'afford' to make these improvements but the cry is then that they 'are only doing it for one site'. 

I do not consider it to be an improvement personally. 

yes, the overall numbers are high and its easy to bandy these about to make it sound un-doable, but other sites (including small commercial chains) manage infrastructure and technical improvements to stay in touch with modern vanning thinking/requirements.

I can't say I either consider it an improvement to have metered EHUs nor financially un-doable but I foresee no fantastic benefits for me. I presume that you do personally as you might want to avoid paying for electricity altogether. Presumably by using one of the forward thinking sites in the UK that are embracing the idea of metering. I can't say that I have noticed mainline site operators rushing to embrace such an idea. Maybe it is because they do not see it as an attraction to their main clientele? Maybe because electricity supply is regulated in the UK and they see no financial profit. Do you have much evidence of major players rushing to embrace such change within UK because I certainly do not. 

its really all down to the desire to do these things. as long as customers are happy paying ever rising fees to cover increased electric costs the club seems little interested.

Why suppose that the rising fees are due to any large extent in increasing electric cost.

I have used a fan heater in my awning.

I know that when abroad and using a supply of maybe 6 amps I have to think about what I am using to avoid tripping the bollard, especially when the trips are locked away and that means going without till the disgruntled site staff come to reset it.

I know that having a metered supply would probably have the same affect and make me think about my consumption.

Would I want that though?

Probably not but, as there are lots of examples of being made to do do things that might prevent us coming to harm, because left to our own devices we might not, then the chances of us doing things because they are 'good' may, if left to us, take a little longer to achieve.

So maybe meters, or whatever system, might be used to speed things up but it does not seem, on this thread at least, that there is a lot of 'support' for this.

So maybe meters, or whatever system, might be used to speed things up but it does not seem, on this thread at least, that there is a lot of 'support' for this.
 

I don't see a great deal of support on this thread either other than from those who decided to take the thread off topic from awning heaters. [Deleted User User] seems in favour for the CC to introduce metering but says that he rarely uses a club site anyway. 

Those with extended and full off grid facility (the true campers such as Bolero Boy?) might think it a great idea ...... especially during the warmer months. 

even if the project were costed for the 200 odd sites (even better, cheaper for economies of scale) the coffers are refilled with 200 odd times the income

how? you have metered electricity. OK you pay for what you use but the club can not charge you more than that. So it can never get back what ever it cost to install those meter, and a way of getting the readings to the office. 

so again how?

and not really an improvement is it? how will it improve my stay? 

well, Alan, there wont be support here, will there?

folk are used to plugging in and using electric without much thought 'as they've paid for it'...in advance 

but, as you and others have said, metering may not be liked but it does acheive the desired effect, customers think a bit more about their usage and this is the thrust of the OP, keeping costs down.

with vans being filled with ever more electrical gadgets a vanners demand for a food leccy supply goes up, but can we sustain this?

the club even thinks that a day or two at the NEC car park customers 'need' an electric supply, albeit at a vast cost which then translates into £40 a night parking.

+1

As always those who use club the least want the greatest changes. Their way is the correct way, those currently happy with the way things are done, and who use club sites rather more, are what? misguided?

And with their proposed changes they probably wouldn't use club sites any more than they do.

I can see the advantage perhaps to small 5 or10 pitch sites, In the event of a very harsh winter they have a good idea that their income will not be hit by an unusually heavy seasonal demand. The CC is however better situated to take account of peaks and troughs over a longer time period.

I can't see many larger sites believing such a move is necessary and may even consider that it may make them less attractive than their competitor.