New Waste Arrangements

FreshAir4Us replied on 07/08/2021 20:58

Posted on 07/08/2021 20:58

It seems that new waste arrangements are in place at Pembrey Country Park and are being introduced at Gowerton and other club sites. The reason given by wardens is health & safety as there have been increasing waste volumes and unacceptable waste eg syringes and medical waste. The new arrangement is for zero disposal at the usual service points and a single point at the site entrance with large disposal high bins. Whilst understanding the real concerns regarding wardens handling unsafe waste there are a number of initial first thoughts which make me wonder whether this has been thought through properly. 

Some members have limited mobility and cannot regularly walk with waste as far as the site entrance. For those with cars maybe this could be done by driving to the entrance but the extra traffic on site will not be welcome and some do not have cars. The height of the bins is approx  chest height. How will someone in a wheelchair manage? This seems to reduce accessibility for disabled members. As regular disposal of waste will be more difficult and users don’t want to keep full bin bags in their vans there will be a temptation to leave full bags of waste outside attracting vermin and scattering of waste. I would guess this will be more of a problem when there is a visiting fish& chip/ pizza van and it is a rainy evening!  Carrying glass bottles all the way across site will potentially lead to more glass breakage too.  Maybe a sensible compromise would be to have larger waste bins at the usual disposal points to be collected by waste collectors. Almost certainly  the glass recycle bins at Pembrey could be deposited around the site rather than at the entrance and lower height access bins could be considered for those needing them. What do others think? 

JVB66 replied on 09/08/2021 08:39

Posted on 08/08/2021 22:16 by ABM

Clinical waste is any waste that could be contaminated by blood  Or by any other bodily fluids / substances or items that may carry infection .

Posted on 09/08/2021 08:39

I agree  but then others are querying that the phs vans that collect the bins from club sites would not be classed as clinical wastesurprised

JVB66 replied on 09/08/2021 18:35

Posted on 08/08/2021 16:09 by LLM

Are you really saying that PHS is contracted by CAMC to dispose of clinical waste, i.e. waste produced from healthcare and similar activities that may pose a risk of infection, for example, swabs, bandages, dressings etc. or may prove hazardous, for example medicines? Or, as I suspect, are you confusing that with the disposal of waste such as sanitary products and nappies, and etc.? There's a world of difference. 

Posted on 09/08/2021 18:35

But there is not in the eyes of those who have to dispose of itsurprised

brue replied on 09/08/2021 19:20

Posted on 09/08/2021 19:20

JVB can I ask why you are continuing to discuss clinical waste on a discussion about large bins and general waste?

I would think it's now 50/50 on sites we visit now to find either large bins in a designated area or smaller bins dotted around. If it saves time to have the larger bins it sounds like a sensible idea. 

JVB66 replied on 09/08/2021 20:18

Posted on 09/08/2021 19:20 by brue

JVB can I ask why you are continuing to discuss clinical waste on a discussion about large bins and general waste?

I would think it's now 50/50 on sites we visit now to find either large bins in a designated area or smaller bins dotted around. If it saves time to have the larger bins it sounds like a sensible idea. 

Posted on 09/08/2021 20:18

You needed to follow how the thread was going to keep up

JVB66 replied on 10/08/2021 18:02

Posted on 10/08/2021 18:02

Just a bit of an up date on waste collection

 

After a caravan was written off when a refuse truck got entangled with it on a site ,a blanket ban? on those vehicles is In place for them to pick up waste containers. except in the place on sites that refuse is normally collected, so even if the large bins are put in place of dustbins at the service points ,which would still entail getting site staff getting the big bins to the normal refuse vehicles pick up point,

Also the majority of sites have large skips for the rubbish to be picked up from by contractors

 

MikeyA replied on 11/08/2021 09:45

Posted on 11/08/2021 09:45

It seems to the only solution for those who find carrying a small bag of rubbish to a bin once a day, is to include a personal dustbin on a serviced pitch. 

Maybe it is also time for the Club to provide a full janitor service, for those who are unable/ too idle to carry out the normal daily tasks on a site.

SteveL replied on 11/08/2021 09:55

Posted on 11/08/2021 09:45 by MikeyA

It seems to the only solution for those who find carrying a small bag of rubbish to a bin once a day, is to include a personal dustbin on a serviced pitch. 

Maybe it is also time for the Club to provide a full janitor service, for those who are unable/ too idle to carry out the normal daily tasks on a site.

Posted on 11/08/2021 09:55

The personal dustbin would need a lock, otherwise it would be full when you went to use it.🤔

Bins by the gate are certainly the way to go. Although perhaps the sites could improve there green credentials by doing some composting. Many sites have an area where they dump the grass cuttings. Set up a compost bin and encourage its use. One site we stopped on in a France had such a bin. It seemed well and sensibly used.😀

JVB66 replied on 11/08/2021 10:11

Posted on 11/08/2021 09:55 by SteveL

The personal dustbin would need a lock, otherwise it would be full when you went to use it.🤔

Bins by the gate are certainly the way to go. Although perhaps the sites could improve there green credentials by doing some composting. Many sites have an area where they dump the grass cuttings. Set up a compost bin and encourage its use. One site we stopped on in a France had such a bin. It seemed well and sensibly used.😀

Posted on 11/08/2021 10:11

There is as much chance of some site users using composting areas as there is trying to get them to use the different bins in the service points, even if as most club site labelled as to what to put in themfrown

Sutton on sea site the local farmer collects all the grass cuttings for his livestock to eatcool

SteveL replied on 11/08/2021 10:57

Posted on 11/08/2021 10:11 by JVB66

There is as much chance of some site users using composting areas as there is trying to get them to use the different bins in the service points, even if as most club site labelled as to what to put in themfrown

Sutton on sea site the local farmer collects all the grass cuttings for his livestock to eatcool

Posted on 11/08/2021 10:57

I would agree there would be problems convincing some to use it. However, I don’t think you would get the problem of it being used for the wrong items. The one in France wasn’t next to the normal bins, so anyone wanting to use it  had to make a special effort. Quite a few did. There were clear pictorial instructions on what could / couldn’t be deposited.

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