New Waste Arrangements

FreshAir4Us replied on 07/08/2021 20:58

Posted on 07/08/2021 20:58

It seems that new waste arrangements are in place at Pembrey Country Park and are being introduced at Gowerton and other club sites. The reason given by wardens is health & safety as there have been increasing waste volumes and unacceptable waste eg syringes and medical waste. The new arrangement is for zero disposal at the usual service points and a single point at the site entrance with large disposal high bins. Whilst understanding the real concerns regarding wardens handling unsafe waste there are a number of initial first thoughts which make me wonder whether this has been thought through properly. 

Some members have limited mobility and cannot regularly walk with waste as far as the site entrance. For those with cars maybe this could be done by driving to the entrance but the extra traffic on site will not be welcome and some do not have cars. The height of the bins is approx  chest height. How will someone in a wheelchair manage? This seems to reduce accessibility for disabled members. As regular disposal of waste will be more difficult and users don’t want to keep full bin bags in their vans there will be a temptation to leave full bags of waste outside attracting vermin and scattering of waste. I would guess this will be more of a problem when there is a visiting fish& chip/ pizza van and it is a rainy evening!  Carrying glass bottles all the way across site will potentially lead to more glass breakage too.  Maybe a sensible compromise would be to have larger waste bins at the usual disposal points to be collected by waste collectors. Almost certainly  the glass recycle bins at Pembrey could be deposited around the site rather than at the entrance and lower height access bins could be considered for those needing them. What do others think? 

SteveL replied on 07/08/2021 21:13

Posted on 07/08/2021 21:13

The C&CC already do this at the sites we have used. Some of the large bins we have seen have smaller hatches to avoid lifting the big lid. For those with limited mobility there is usually someone willing to assist. They are common place on sites overseas. Although the small bins are convenient, I am surprised the CAMC have not introduced this sooner. Particularly with staffing problems as a result of covid.

Tammygirl replied on 07/08/2021 21:16

Posted on 07/08/2021 21:16

Seems to work fine on lots of other sites we visit that has this kind of set up. 

Drink less wine/beer create less bottles. laughing

To be honest we find having the bins at the entrance better. No one banging bin lids at unearthly hours, no congregating of folk at water points waste areas. If you are unfortunate to be pitched near them it can be very annoying.

Much less work for the wardens which is a good thing.

If it stops the wardens charging round the site on those noisy tractors then its a win win laughinglaughing

JVB66 replied on 07/08/2021 21:18

Posted on 07/08/2021 21:18

Several club site we have been on have been using those bins for some time.  I think the ones we have seen take all the waste and is sorted at the depot, instead different bins at the service, points,  which many seem not to understand   

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LLM replied on 07/08/2021 21:53

Posted on 07/08/2021 21:53

The use of large bins reminds me of over there laughing.  I'm all for it.  The careless disposal of medical waste and sharps is unforgivable especially as appropriate containers can be obtained, collected, and disposed of FOC by your local authority.  However, it would be helpful and very sensible, if CAMC would locate a sharps box in the facilities.  Not a big ask.  

Tinwheeler replied on 07/08/2021 22:13

Posted on 07/08/2021 21:53 by LLM

The use of large bins reminds me of over there laughing.  I'm all for it.  The careless disposal of medical waste and sharps is unforgivable especially as appropriate containers can be obtained, collected, and disposed of FOC by your local authority.  However, it would be helpful and very sensible, if CAMC would locate a sharps box in the facilities.  Not a big ask.  

Posted on 07/08/2021 22:13

A huge ask, surely? Sharps are hazardous waste needing special collection. Would you really want one in a communal area where children are present?

ABM replied on 07/08/2021 22:15

Posted on 07/08/2021 22:15

I doubt that any folks who cannot put their trash into the correct bin, LLM, would be any better at putting medical waste away safely,  certainly not their sharps !  I have a small sharps bin with me when i go away for more than one night.

LLM replied on 07/08/2021 22:37

Posted on 07/08/2021 22:13 by Tinwheeler

A huge ask, surely? Sharps are hazardous waste needing special collection. Would you really want one in a communal area where children are present?

Posted on 07/08/2021 22:37

Sharps bins are designed to be tamper proof and are much much safer than risking sharps being dumped in general waste.  Special collection would be by the local authority or their designated agent and FOC.  It's a well honed system. 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/08/2021 22:49

Posted on 07/08/2021 22:37 by LLM

Sharps bins are designed to be tamper proof and are much much safer than risking sharps being dumped in general waste.  Special collection would be by the local authority or their designated agent and FOC.  It's a well honed system. 

Posted on 07/08/2021 22:49

In a communal facilities block. You have to be kidding!

DavidKlyne replied on 07/08/2021 23:57

Posted on 07/08/2021 23:57

Whilst I appreciate it might be a bit more inconvenient than having the bins at the service points I am sure people will get used to the idea of taking waste to a central point. We hang a bag on the bike rack and when its full we take it to the bin. As others have mentioned a central collection point is quite common on European sites.

I don't quite get the need for a Sharps disposal on site. Who would use it. The most likely people to have a need for a sharps box are people who insulin dependent. As Brian says anyone in that situation will have their own sharps box as indeed Margaret has. Not that I can think of any other condition that requires regular use of needles but even if there were those people would also be equipped with their own sharps box as they would at home. I am also not sure that local authorities do collect sharps boxes as we have to dispose of ours at the surgery.

David

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