New Waste Arrangements

FreshAir4Us replied on 07/08/2021 20:58

Posted on 07/08/2021 20:58

It seems that new waste arrangements are in place at Pembrey Country Park and are being introduced at Gowerton and other club sites. The reason given by wardens is health & safety as there have been increasing waste volumes and unacceptable waste eg syringes and medical waste. The new arrangement is for zero disposal at the usual service points and a single point at the site entrance with large disposal high bins. Whilst understanding the real concerns regarding wardens handling unsafe waste there are a number of initial first thoughts which make me wonder whether this has been thought through properly. 

Some members have limited mobility and cannot regularly walk with waste as far as the site entrance. For those with cars maybe this could be done by driving to the entrance but the extra traffic on site will not be welcome and some do not have cars. The height of the bins is approx  chest height. How will someone in a wheelchair manage? This seems to reduce accessibility for disabled members. As regular disposal of waste will be more difficult and users don’t want to keep full bin bags in their vans there will be a temptation to leave full bags of waste outside attracting vermin and scattering of waste. I would guess this will be more of a problem when there is a visiting fish& chip/ pizza van and it is a rainy evening!  Carrying glass bottles all the way across site will potentially lead to more glass breakage too.  Maybe a sensible compromise would be to have larger waste bins at the usual disposal points to be collected by waste collectors. Almost certainly  the glass recycle bins at Pembrey could be deposited around the site rather than at the entrance and lower height access bins could be considered for those needing them. What do others think? 

eribaMotters replied on 08/08/2021 09:34

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:34

I'm confused and annoyed by elements of this thread. 

Does it really matter where the main bins are on a site. A central area with clear and safe access should surely be the main consideration. If near the entrance any refuse collection might be easier but if on the opposite side of the site then a lorry collection should cause no greater inconvenience than a car/caravan or motorhome driving around the site. Lets face it our outfits are fairly sizeable. If you are not capable of walking to the area then drive there, ask a neighbour  or drop it off on your way in/out of the site. The disposal of medical waste and sharps is beyond me. Why would the user of these not have a sharps box for the safe storage and subsequent disposal. Why are they putting others at risk?

 

Colin

replied on 08/08/2021 09:45

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:45

Does it really matter where the main bins are on a site. 

Obviously for some it does but more so for other in  actually using these tall refuse skips and the heavy lid.. 

 

LLM replied on 08/08/2021 09:58

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:26 by Rufs

"I am also not sure that local authorities do collect sharps boxes as we have to dispose of ours at the surgery"

Our's does, the only aspect of this I do not like is that you have to leave at your front door the evening before collection and mysteriously it has vanished and replaced by a new one by the next morning undecided, unlikely anyone would want to steal a full sharps box but it just feels a bit unsafe.

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:58

The local authorities are obliged by law to provide such a service.

LLM replied on 08/08/2021 10:00

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:45 by

Does it really matter where the main bins are on a site. 

Obviously for some it does but more so for other in  actually using these tall refuse skips and the heavy lid.. 

 

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:00

Hopefully in due course the bins with a foot bar and /or lever system (as often used abroad) will be introduced.  

eurortraveller replied on 08/08/2021 10:14

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:14

Having had Hobson’s Choice of pitch 20 at Wyatts Covert, with a fine view of one motorhome after another emptying their waste tanks just opposite us, it would have been sensible to put that facility outside the entrance as well as the refuse bins.

Tinwheeler replied on 08/08/2021 10:18

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:14 by eurortraveller

Having had Hobson’s Choice of pitch 20 at Wyatts Covert, with a fine view of one motorhome after another emptying their waste tanks just opposite us, it would have been sensible to put that facility outside the entrance as well as the refuse bins.

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:18

I'm sure the wildcampers and freeloaders would appreciate that😂😂😂

JVB66 replied on 08/08/2021 10:25

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:14 by eurortraveller

Having had Hobson’s Choice of pitch 20 at Wyatts Covert, with a fine view of one motorhome after another emptying their waste tanks just opposite us, it would have been sensible to put that facility outside the entrance as well as the refuse bins.

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:25

Tell that to the site staff at Seacroft, as word is getting round the freeloaders that the waste emptying point is accesable out side the barriersfrown

SteveL replied on 08/08/2021 10:32

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:18 by Tinwheeler

I'm sure the wildcampers and freeloaders would appreciate that😂😂😂

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:32

I’m sure they would. On camping car park Aires, which have a barrier, they could not get at the water or grey water dump but could carry their cassettes in and dump refuse in bins outside the barrier. Both of which I assume as paying customers we were helping fund. 😡

replied on 08/08/2021 10:33

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:00 by LLM

Hopefully in die course the bins with a foot bar system (as often used abroad) will be introduced.  

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:33

I found these bins particularly irksome during 2019. In February that year I helped a disabled friend move out of his rented cottage and into a residential care home. Negotiating the 5 stone steps to the X-Trail, loading and returning umpteen times back up the steps along with dismantling furnishings etc really took its toll. Days later I was unable to safely manoeuvre the X-Trail as I could not hold down the clutch. A few weeks of rest and physio and I could just manage (with a stick) to cope and mid April we set off to start our tours. OH would collect the water whilst I set up but had to sit down a couple of times during this. I do all the meal prep and cooking and for the last 10 years have often had to rest my spine due to arthritis in my shoulder and spine.

I have had issues with these bins for a number of years but that year I found them far worse to deal with. 

I needed a stick to walk next door or even to walk 80 feet or so to the gate for the post. Mainly I now manage without a stick. There are many that are far worse than me but would not class themselves as disabled.

JVB66 replied on 08/08/2021 10:35

Posted on 08/08/2021 10:35

Clinical waste is disposed of on cc sites by PHS contractor who the club are charged for as any non medical premises and sharps bins either orange or yellow will be an extra chargewink

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