New Waste Arrangements

FreshAir4Us replied on 07/08/2021 20:58

Posted on 07/08/2021 20:58

It seems that new waste arrangements are in place at Pembrey Country Park and are being introduced at Gowerton and other club sites. The reason given by wardens is health & safety as there have been increasing waste volumes and unacceptable waste eg syringes and medical waste. The new arrangement is for zero disposal at the usual service points and a single point at the site entrance with large disposal high bins. Whilst understanding the real concerns regarding wardens handling unsafe waste there are a number of initial first thoughts which make me wonder whether this has been thought through properly. 

Some members have limited mobility and cannot regularly walk with waste as far as the site entrance. For those with cars maybe this could be done by driving to the entrance but the extra traffic on site will not be welcome and some do not have cars. The height of the bins is approx  chest height. How will someone in a wheelchair manage? This seems to reduce accessibility for disabled members. As regular disposal of waste will be more difficult and users don’t want to keep full bin bags in their vans there will be a temptation to leave full bags of waste outside attracting vermin and scattering of waste. I would guess this will be more of a problem when there is a visiting fish& chip/ pizza van and it is a rainy evening!  Carrying glass bottles all the way across site will potentially lead to more glass breakage too.  Maybe a sensible compromise would be to have larger waste bins at the usual disposal points to be collected by waste collectors. Almost certainly  the glass recycle bins at Pembrey could be deposited around the site rather than at the entrance and lower height access bins could be considered for those needing them. What do others think? 

peedee replied on 08/08/2021 07:37

Posted on 08/08/2021 07:37

The problem for the disabled is a red herring. Apart from assistance being readily offered my observation is it is unusual to see an outfit without an able bodied person with it. In the case of a couple it is usual to see only one of them with difficulties.

peedee

SteveL replied on 08/08/2021 07:52

Posted on 08/08/2021 07:52

Carrying glass bottles all the way across site will potentially lead to more glass breakage too.

If there are several bits of recycling I tend to use a bag, paper packaging can escape, particularly if windy. So the likelihood of dropping anything is reduced. I suspect anyone having to carry multiple glass objects would do this even now. More so if they had to walk to the gate.

replied on 08/08/2021 08:13

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LLM replied on 08/08/2021 09:00

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:00

I was simply responding to the suggestion by some other person that sharps are being disposed of in general waste.  I agree that people who normally use them are well schooled and equipped for their safe disposal, and I speak from first hand knowledge.  However, if sharps are being wrongly "dumped" then providing a proper disposal point is a very simple thing to do similar to the provision for the disposal of sanitary products and nappies, etc.  Do kids play with those?

JollyKernow replied on 08/08/2021 09:08

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:00 by LLM

I was simply responding to the suggestion by some other person that sharps are being disposed of in general waste.  I agree that people who normally use them are well schooled and equipped for their safe disposal, and I speak from first hand knowledge.  However, if sharps are being wrongly "dumped" then providing a proper disposal point is a very simple thing to do similar to the provision for the disposal of sanitary products and nappies, etc.  

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:08

We provide dog waste bins too but..................

replied on 08/08/2021 09:10

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:10

Those tall communal bins I dislike intensely and find difficult to use.

I used to have a very small size sharps box in the caravan for when I was monitoring blood sugar. Very convenient

GTP replied on 08/08/2021 09:12

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It's very common  on continental sites to place recycling  and general  waste quite some distance from the pitches some even a longish stroll or bike ride. Suits us we dont want to spend our days next to the bins.

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:12

.Ditto...and some continental sites even give you a refuse bag on arrival (for general use) and renewed free of charge whenever you you take your full bag to the refuse point....

As said in previous post....cannot believe the club has not introduced this before...as should making all pitches fully serviced. It is becoming almost impossible to book a serviced pitch at  sites where they are offered....which proves the point....Many CL's are taking this approach now, having 'listened to members feedback' !!

replied on 08/08/2021 09:14

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:12 by GTP

.Ditto...and some continental sites even give you a refuse bag on arrival (for general use) and renewed free of charge whenever you you take your full bag to the refuse point....

As said in previous post....cannot believe the club has not introduced this before...as should making all pitches fully serviced. It is becoming almost impossible to book a serviced pitch at  sites where they are offered....which proves the point....Many CL's are taking this approach now, having 'listened to members feedback' !!

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Rufs replied on 08/08/2021 09:26

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:26

"I am also not sure that local authorities do collect sharps boxes as we have to dispose of ours at the surgery"

Our's does, the only aspect of this I do not like is that you have to leave at your front door the evening before collection and mysteriously it has vanished and replaced by a new one by the next morning undecided, unlikely anyone would want to steal a full sharps box but it just feels a bit unsafe.

replied on 08/08/2021 09:32

Posted on 08/08/2021 07:37 by peedee

The problem for the disabled is a red herring. Apart from assistance being readily offered my observation is it is unusual to see an outfit without an able bodied person with it. In the case of a couple it is usual to see only one of them with difficulties.

peedee

Posted on 08/08/2021 09:32

It is not easy to judge folks ability at a glance. I do not class  my self as disabled in the least but certainly less able. If the lid mechanism was better designed with a smaller, lighter hatch section towards the front they would be far easier.

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