Mayday and Caravan Storage

Stato replied on 16/01/2019 14:57

Posted on 16/01/2019 14:57

Hi,

This is just a heads up for people who have Mayday breakdown cover and store their caravan at a storage site.

In my naivety, I always assumed that in the event of any issues with my car Mayday would pick me up, drop off my caravan at our storage site, which is about six miles from my home, and then take my car back to my home address, or a local garage. It turns out that this is not the case. Apparently they will take my car and van to my caravan storage site and then leave me there to my own devices. Alternatively, they will take me to my home address and then leave both my car and van there (not an option for me as the van won't fit on my drive}. The choice is yours, it's either one or the other. 

This only came to light last year when one of our centre members had to use Mayday, and both their broken down car and caravan where deposited at their storage site. They then had to arrange for a garage to recover the car to their home address. On contacting the Caravan Club after the event they were given sympathy but told sorry, those are the conditions of Mayday membership.

I have to say I am a little disappointed with the Caravan Club and Mayday. I pay over £100 a year for their breakdown cover and it does seem a bit poor that onward recovery, especially where it is fairly local, is not provided. Does anybody know how Arrival or Britannia Rescue would deal with this situation?

Anyway, the main point of this post is just to highlight this issue for Club members who store their caravans at a storage site.  Fortunately I've never had to use Mayday's services, and yes, I have been naive in not reading the small print. Apparently it's on page 6 of the policy document! 

Happy caravanning.

Surfer replied on 14/02/2019 12:00

Posted on 14/02/2019 09:36 by

In truth Surfer it matters not when one breaks down. Many garages cannot drop everything to fit in a major repair and repairs may have to be scheduled a week ahead in some cases, or more.

In such cases the vehicle may need to be taken to home and then to garage depending on the problem.

 

Posted on 14/02/2019 12:00

That is correct however Mayday will not attend free for the same fault within a period of 28 days!  I thought of upgrading my Nationwide account to Flexplus, but that is £13 a month for very little extra!

I have been thinking of taking out a very basic cover with another breakdown service to recover the vehicle from wherever it is left to take to a garage.  Our Jeep dealership is about 65 miles from home! 

We do use a garage a lot closer for our other car and also for our previous Jeep, however we have a service contract with Jeep for our new to us 2012 Jeep.

DSB replied on 14/02/2019 23:46

Posted on 14/02/2019 12:00 by Surfer

That is correct however Mayday will not attend free for the same fault within a period of 28 days!  I thought of upgrading my Nationwide account to Flexplus, but that is £13 a month for very little extra!

I have been thinking of taking out a very basic cover with another breakdown service to recover the vehicle from wherever it is left to take to a garage.  Our Jeep dealership is about 65 miles from home! 

We do use a garage a lot closer for our other car and also for our previous Jeep, however we have a service contract with Jeep for our new to us 2012 Jeep.

Posted on 14/02/2019 23:46

That sound like a good interim solution Surfer.  It could be that cover already exists if it is part of a bank account package.  I must check mine.

David

SteveL replied on 15/02/2019 08:10

Posted on 14/02/2019 23:46 by DSB

That sound like a good interim solution Surfer.  It could be that cover already exists if it is part of a bank account package.  I must check mine.

David

Posted on 15/02/2019 08:10

Or possibly as part of the service agreement. The one on my XTrail, with Nissan, provides RAC  cover.

GTP replied on 15/02/2019 08:12

Posted on 14/02/2019 23:46 by DSB

That sound like a good interim solution Surfer.  It could be that cover already exists if it is part of a bank account package.  I must check mine.

David

Posted on 15/02/2019 08:12

I would make it more than an interim solution DSB, firstly the “club” acting as “Mayday” have to negotiate with Green Flag who in turn have to negotiate with their ‘ independent contractors’ ....the latter having a specific contract with Green Flag which would require amending....

Surfer replied on 15/02/2019 12:35

Posted on 15/02/2019 08:12 by GTP

I would make it more than an interim solution DSB, firstly the “club” acting as “Mayday” have to negotiate with Green Flag who in turn have to negotiate with their ‘ independent contractors’ ....the latter having a specific contract with Green Flag which would require amending....

Posted on 15/02/2019 12:35

 Why?  If you go to Green Flag and accept their quote there should not be any problems as technically two different entities.

DavidSmithCandMClub replied on 15/02/2019 13:24

Posted on 15/02/2019 13:24

Hi all,

Once again, apologies I could not reply sooner, as I was out of the office, but just wanted to refer back to the two latest points raised:

'Out of hours' recovery

If the vehicle being recovered needs to go to a garage and it is outside opening hours for the garage, Mayday will recover the vehicle to another agreed destination (normally either your storage, or your home) and then arrange a second recovery for an agreed time when the garage is next open. For example, if this is an overnight, Mayday will attempt to organise a second recovery the following morning, subject to availability of resources.

28-day 'Second Fault' attendance

To clarify, the "Mayday will not attend for the same fault within a period of 28 days" rule only comes into effect if the attending contractor has made a temporary roadside fix to get you going again. If it is a temporary fix, the contractor will advise that it is such, and that you still need to take the vehicle to a garage to get a permanent fix carried out. You will also receive a follow-up text or phone call, advising this. 

If, subsequently, you call out Mayday for the same problem within 28 days, and cannot evidence your efforts to effect a permanent fix (eg, a receipt for diagnosis and/or works carried out) we may refuse to attend the fault.

In relation to the recovery to a garage (above) this would not arise unless, once recovered, you chose NOT to have the garage work on your vehicle.

I hope that I've addressed the latest questions satisfactorily.

I should add that, as External Products Manager, I manage a large portfolio of products that often require me to liaise with the external provider to come back with the exact correct response; and I also spend significant amounts of time out of the office, which is why I can't always be on hand to answer questions immediately.

I will always try to respond as quickly as I can, but Members will probably get a quicker response if they call the Club.

JVB66 replied on 15/02/2019 13:53

Posted on 15/02/2019 13:24 by DavidSmithCandMClub

Hi all,

Once again, apologies I could not reply sooner, as I was out of the office, but just wanted to refer back to the two latest points raised:

'Out of hours' recovery

If the vehicle being recovered needs to go to a garage and it is outside opening hours for the garage, Mayday will recover the vehicle to another agreed destination (normally either your storage, or your home) and then arrange a second recovery for an agreed time when the garage is next open. For example, if this is an overnight, Mayday will attempt to organise a second recovery the following morning, subject to availability of resources.

28-day 'Second Fault' attendance

To clarify, the "Mayday will not attend for the same fault within a period of 28 days" rule only comes into effect if the attending contractor has made a temporary roadside fix to get you going again. If it is a temporary fix, the contractor will advise that it is such, and that you still need to take the vehicle to a garage to get a permanent fix carried out. You will also receive a follow-up text or phone call, advising this. 

If, subsequently, you call out Mayday for the same problem within 28 days, and cannot evidence your efforts to effect a permanent fix (eg, a receipt for diagnosis and/or works carried out) we may refuse to attend the fault.

In relation to the recovery to a garage (above) this would not arise unless, once recovered, you chose NOT to have the garage work on your vehicle.

I hope that I've addressed the latest questions satisfactorily.

I should add that, as External Products Manager, I manage a large portfolio of products that often require me to liaise with the external provider to come back with the exact correct response; and I also spend significant amounts of time out of the office, which is why I can't always be on hand to answer questions immediately.

I will always try to respond as quickly as I can, but Members will probably get a quicker response if they call the Club.

Posted on 15/02/2019 13:53

The problem as the OP and would also affect us as our C/van in a  storage compound , which is still not clearly defined is 

1 We breakdown with the C/van on the hook on our way to holiday. and are relayed to our destination

2 Tow vehicle not repaired so need a relay back to storage at end of holiday

3 Will green flag then take our car to a local main dealer then  take us and dog to our home address?

DavidSmithCandMClub replied on 15/02/2019 15:12

Posted on 15/02/2019 13:53 by JVB66

The problem as the OP and would also affect us as our C/van in a  storage compound , which is still not clearly defined is 

1 We breakdown with the C/van on the hook on our way to holiday. and are relayed to our destination

2 Tow vehicle not repaired so need a relay back to storage at end of holiday

3 Will green flag then take our car to a local main dealer then  take us and dog to our home address?

Posted on 15/02/2019 15:12

Hi JVB66,

In your scenario, after 1 and 2 have happened, the answer to 3 is no.

Your final recovery back from your trip would offer you the choice of taking both vehicles to your storage, at which point you would need to arrange to get the car to the garage; or taking both to the garage, at which point you would need to arrange to get the caravan to the storage.

This is the crux of the ‘double-drop’ issue that we are discussing here, which is not currently offered, but we hope to be able to introduce, and meanwhile there are occasions where cover may be provided ‘outside’ the terms and conditions, as a gesture of goodwill at the discretion of the Mayday recovery operator. 

Metheven replied on 15/02/2019 15:43

Posted on 15/02/2019 15:43

As I said earlier, bye bye Mayday after all these years and hello Arrival. If they can accommodate the two drop offs then it can't be too difficult for Mayday to adopt it.undecided or is it a case of 'tipping' the driver for this gesture of goodwill.  

Surfer replied on 16/02/2019 09:30

Posted on 15/02/2019 15:12 by DavidSmithCandMClub

Hi JVB66,

In your scenario, after 1 and 2 have happened, the answer to 3 is no.

Your final recovery back from your trip would offer you the choice of taking both vehicles to your storage, at which point you would need to arrange to get the car to the garage; or taking both to the garage, at which point you would need to arrange to get the caravan to the storage.

This is the crux of the ‘double-drop’ issue that we are discussing here, which is not currently offered, but we hope to be able to introduce, and meanwhile there are occasions where cover may be provided ‘outside’ the terms and conditions, as a gesture of goodwill at the discretion of the Mayday recovery operator. 

Posted on 16/02/2019 09:30

Mayday has been in operation with the club for many years however it appears that this problem is only been addressed currently.  Surely this issue has come up previously or did the club prefer to ignore the issue? 

Why is it that the C&CC can offer RAC Arrival which will do all the above and also take the vehicle to a garage within 75 miles.  I am sure that the any self respecting organisation would monitor what the opposition do so that they can stay ahead to keep customers.

Strange that millions are spent on changing the name, bring the insurance in

house yet a basic essential service like Mayday was not revamped to take into account situations where caravans are kept in storage.

Another issue is that on most occasions a garage cannot accept a vehicle immediately and you may need to wait up to two weeks before they can find a slot to fit you in. 

So even if the vehicle is dropped off at home due to it being after hours, you may have issues getting it back to the garage.  This would also apply even if the garage were open as they may not have the room to store the vehicle for 2 weeks until a slot is found.  So what happens then?

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