Is it a rip off?

dogsandhinnies replied on 08/04/2019 20:12

Posted on 08/04/2019 20:12

Hi I have a rant to get off my chest

Just booked a site for 21 nights for an eye watering £540!   After I got back on my feet I was informed that Caravan and Motor home club have increased their Easter fees this week two weeks early.  Why I ask. even the management were embarrassed and thought it were shocking. 

 I spent 5 nights last week on a fabulous caravan and camping club site in heart of Northumberland with all the facilities and with over 60s discount £8 pn!

After only just re-joining I cannot  see the benefits of staying with  C&M club prices are beyond out reach.

 

 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 27/04/2019 18:27

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:18 by

Not a special term really. When talking of sites of a similar standard to the club I am talking about the majority of CC sites with facilities not the likes of Nunnykirk which I think is a great site but such CC sites are few and far between and I do use them when  in the right place for a tour but not specifically to save money. I don't need on site facilities but generally like hardstand and good roadways coupled with easy waste, water, elsan points etc. One of the reasons that C&CC sites are second choice, for me particularly, isthat their showers are of little use to me as one is generally unable to regulate water temperature which rapidly becomes painfully hot for me.

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:27

I find Club Site showers very irritating. Don’t like fixed heads, especially if they are around 7-8 feet high. Mind you, I appreciate why they are fixed. One of our trips to Yellowcraig saw two of the flexible shower heads stolen from the modified cubicles. You can’t beat a decent easily controlled powerful shower, one of life’s little joys sometimes.😁

Cornersteady replied on 27/04/2019 18:30

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:03 by moulesy

Yes, but it doesn't address the point that choosing to use alternatives (as many of us do for all sorts of reasons) is not the same as being "priced out"  does it? 

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:30

and not with the amount of cash being spent on each trip, well over £3000

KjellNN replied on 27/04/2019 18:41

Posted on 27/04/2019 15:42 by moulesy

"No, I do not think so.  We set a budget for our trips and have a pretty good idea of what we will spend, so we have a maximum price for sites.  In UK this is an average of £20 per night, elsewhere we aim for no more than the equivalent of £15."

 

Kj - again, with the greatest of respect,  I think you missed the point I was trying to make. You say that, on one hand, you are being priced out of club sites, but on the other you post this:

I include all food, wine, eating out, fuel, ferries, insurance, site fees, purchase of LPG, sightseeing.......everything.

Of this total, site fees per night will vary from 11 to 19 euros, though as noted above we did have one night at about 32 euros one year.

These are trips which vary between 2 and 4 months in length and have covered distances up to 7000 miles, but more often around 3000-4000 miles.

I think you, like us, may choose to use other sites where you consider them to be better value, but that is not the same as being "priced out" Anyone truly "priced out" of club sites would surely not be able to contemplate trips such as your final paragraph indicates?

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:41

No, I meant exactly what I said.

Until about 5 years back, we pretty much always used  Club sites.

We like Club sites, we like the dependable standard, we would like to be able to afford to use them all the time when we tour in UK, but with the above inflation price increases in the last, what, 5 years? and the very noticeable lengthening of peak periods and the introduction of additional, higher, pricing periods in June and September in particular, we can no longer afford to use only Club sites.

As pensioners on a fixed income that does not even keep up with ordinary inflation, we find site price increases just too much.

We are therefor being "priced out", or whatever you like to call it, as far as we are concerned.

We have not looked much at alternatives other than CLs and CCC sites, and having found CCC sites work out much less expensive for us, we are now using them , CLs, and the occasional Club site to allow us to take long trips and still keep within our budget.

young thomas replied on 27/04/2019 18:49

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:19 by

The quality of your contributions to such discussions is always of a standard

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:49

and yours?wink

....usually along the lines of 'it doesn't affect me'.....so why bother telling us all the time?

just look at the previous two dozen posts, debating a single word's meaning....does it not strike you as being overly pedantic?

and this is how it goes on thread after thread....especially when the OP dares to post something 'critical'of the club....

constant dissection of posts, focussing on one or two words rather than the real meaning the poster intended. 

...and now it's Kjell's turn in the barrel... probably wishing he hadn't bothered to explainundecided

Cornersteady replied on 27/04/2019 18:54

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:54

Sorry K but saying:

we can no longer afford to use only Club sites.

As pensioners on a fixed income that does not even keep up with ordinary inflation, we find site price increases just too much.

We are therefor being "priced out", or whatever you like to call it, as far as we are concerned.

Just doesn't equate (the best word I could think of) to spending between £3000 to £6000 per trip each time each year, the fuel costs alone on 3000 to 4000 miles alone just does not tie in. A very high fixed income it must be.

Maybe it is a language thing for you but when people here stay these things (Pensioner, fixed income, can no longer afford) it means they cannot even dream to spend when you are.  

replied on 27/04/2019 19:03

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:49 by young thomas

and yours?wink

....usually along the lines of 'it doesn't affect me'.....so why bother telling us all the time?

just look at the previous two dozen posts, debating a single word's meaning....does it not strike you as being overly pedantic?

and this is how it goes on thread after thread....especially when the OP dares to post something 'critical'of the club....

constant dissection of posts, focussing on one or two words rather than the real meaning the poster intended. 

...and now it's Kjell's turn in the barrel... probably wishing he hadn't bothered to explainundecided

Posted on 27/04/2019 19:03

Having read your post BB I give it the response it deserves - '         '.

Tinwheeler replied on 27/04/2019 19:03

Posted on 27/04/2019 19:03

I’d like to buy a house but I’ve been priced out and can’t afford it since I bought a yacht.

Sorry, Kj, but that’s effectively what you’re saying. We all have to make choices and we can’t have our cake and eat it. Your choice to spend your money on your longer hols is great and suits you but please don’t say you can’t afford club site prices because you could if you chose to do that instead of spending on your other trips.

JayOutdoors replied on 27/04/2019 19:05

Posted on 27/04/2019 17:16 by Takethedogalong

The Club offers some very good terms and conditions compared with other providers, currently no deposits and no cancellation fees. Let’s hope these are still in place this time next year for those that enjoy them. 😁

Posted on 27/04/2019 19:05

The club also allows members to book 1 night with no strings attached - not always available with other pitch providers.

moulesy replied on 27/04/2019 19:07

Posted on 27/04/2019 18:41 by KjellNN

No, I meant exactly what I said.

Until about 5 years back, we pretty much always used  Club sites.

We like Club sites, we like the dependable standard, we would like to be able to afford to use them all the time when we tour in UK, but with the above inflation price increases in the last, what, 5 years? and the very noticeable lengthening of peak periods and the introduction of additional, higher, pricing periods in June and September in particular, we can no longer afford to use only Club sites.

As pensioners on a fixed income that does not even keep up with ordinary inflation, we find site price increases just too much.

We are therefor being "priced out", or whatever you like to call it, as far as we are concerned.

We have not looked much at alternatives other than CLs and CCC sites, and having found CCC sites work out much less expensive for us, we are now using them , CLs, and the occasional Club site to allow us to take long trips and still keep within our budget.

Posted on 27/04/2019 19:07

Sorry, Kj, but you are not being priced out in the sense that you are denied the choice of using them. You, like us and many others have found that there are more economical alternatives, not necessarily of the same standard as club sites, and have chosen to use them. I realise that to some that may appear to be being pedantic, but it is, IMHO, a distinction which needs stressing .  Choice is everything. smile

Cornersteady replied on 27/04/2019 19:27

Posted on 27/04/2019 19:27

Kj the cost of fuel for one of your over there trips is (a quick calculation) about over £800! This is well over a month's worth of club site stays so saying you can not afford them is just nonsense! 

Oh didn't you just buy a new VW? I think many pensioners on fixed incomes would love your lifestyle.

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