The lure of ehu

I'm sorry Corners, your facetious remarks don't really warrant a reply. Of course it costs money to install new systems but it also costs money to run old systems. What you choose do at home has nothing to do with the way utilities are run on club sites but on here I read that some would like a choice and others aren't bothered, either way costs will go up and I'd be happy for the club to reconsider anything that might reduce costs in the long run.

However I liked Boff's OP and the thoughts about the costs (or savings) involved.

they were not facetious at all but a question that no one that is advocating metering will give an answer to?

yes the old system costs money to run but that money is being paid for by the site fees. To install these new meters on every bollard (about 20000 I said before) will cost extra money (about £400,000?) that cannot be recouped by any other means than either using current reserves or increasing site fees, and this will on top of any other increases. 

Why?

How will it reduce costs? the club pays what the bill is, we pay for that through  these meters or the current inclusive fee. But even if the cost of electricity falls it will be paid for by what the members pay, there is no saving? But again the bi question, still unanswered is where will that extra money come from to pay for the new meters? 

Have you considered that the club makes a profit on the all inclusive fee?

It seems smart meters rely on the mobi network, then. How’s that going to work on sites with poor or no mobile reception, I wonder?

PS. Sorry if you think that’s facetious as well, Brue. I wonder why you replied to a post that you didn’t think warranted a reply🤔

yes good point

I have no doubt that metering will come to most caravan / camping sites. It's just a matter of how soon. The increased use of electric vehicles and spiralling energy costs makes it inevitable. Whilst charging them in the winter months probably doesn't incur significant additional costs, as you can only use your 16 amps once, charging in summer undoubtedly will. As the number of cars increase it will become impossible to pass this on as additional increases to all users.

What I find amusing is that some folk think it will lead to cost reductions in the pitch price. Although this will be the case in the short term, it won't be long before they sneak back up to the same level, plus electric on top.☹️

indeed, ever known prices go down in cases like this?

This is possible on some CCC sites  where there are grass with ehu pitches and grass without ehu pitches.

Well there have been at least two comments along the lines of "I'm not bothered what's turned on" and "we leave the heating and hot water on (when EHU is included) when we go out, but not (when it's metered)". So to me, that's unnecessary  (profligate) use. (Or as some would say "I've paid for it, I'm damn well going to make sure I use it"). 

Just in case anyone is interested, Exeter Racecourse has HS none electric pitch. Nicely positioned as well. Unless there’s a rally on.

Just looked at one of our old tent camping choices. Lower Wensleydale, a grass pitch, at furthest point on site from loos, no electric, coming to you now for £21.30 during July and August, two adults. That’s regardless of size of tent. 

There are a few hardstandings at Steamer Quay too where it's all non ehu. It's not cheap but you're paying for a town and river site.