The lure of ehu

no you're not unique, Boff

if we're on a pitch with inclusive electric I won't think about what's turned on, except to ensure the trip isn't blown..

however, on metered electric I'll usually use gas for the 'big stuff' (heating, cooking, hotwater) and try and keep the leccy for battery charging (although we have solar) and hairdryer

so, I am definitely less 'careful' if included....after all, I've paid for it... but, in reality, we're still not that wasteful.

Good post Justus, couldn't agree more. £270 would pay for another month over there.

peedee

you can't present the 'real facts' until you compare the amount of electric used on a site when it's 'included' against that used when metered.

i find it quite incredible that an organisation like the club seems not to want to reduce its horrendous electric bill (apparently up 25% this year) which directly affected site price increases as reported by Ro.

yet, whenever there is a suggestion about taking measures to bring these costs down, for every one, the cries of dissent ring loud.

obviously, there will be an capital investment to reduce revenue costs, this is how business works, long term..but no one seems interested in the long term.

so, what do we do then, allow costs to continue to spiral up and up, taking prices with them, pricing some of the less well heeled members off club pitches?

 

but they are going up as a direct rise in the cost (and usage?) of electricity....costs up by 25% according to Ro.

Perhaps it is time to reduce the capacity of individual EHU's to 10 amps or even 5. 

 

We once went to an all you can eat banquet where it was £10 to get in and the amounts on some peoples plates was obscene. It was the same we've paid for it so we can have as much as we like mentality. Now I'm not suggesting that anyone on here is wasteful with electricity usage, but having a 16 amp supply included or indeed free as some would call it does nothing to promote frugal use in my opinion.

you can't present the 'real facts' until you compare the amount of electric used on a site when it's 'included' against that used when metered.

You also cannot compare the real facts when talking about being economic on metered leccy when touring abroad compared to usage within the UK and its much lower resale rate. 

Given my usage and the rate of charges in UK it would not affect my usage in the same way as it does not at home.

Comparison is difficult anyway when folk are using a variety of sites but I accept that as Justus says there are savings to be made for those equipped to take advantage of them on some sites. The only sites that I come across with optional EHU provide non-EHU on grass. I don't generally book grass. 

I have been on sites with 10 amps in cold and snowy weather without problem. Doubt it would cope in the occasional -14c temps we have encountered rarely. Generally though  suspect that most users would use as much on 10 amps as on 16 amps as for us it would just mean that the boiler was running longer on 10 amp to produce the same heating levels. 

Given that the club is really in competition with the "chain" providers such as Morris, Haven, Parkdean etc who all make big play of full facilities (including 16A EHU), rather than individual private sites, I think there is little chance of any change to the current practice. As, I've said many times, I can go along with offering a non EHU option to those who want it for a small reduction. That would certainly be quicker and easier to implement than a metering system. Interesting, though, that those who are advocating metering or non EHU now seem to be the very ones holding their hands up and saying they are more profligate in usage when the EHU is included! Curious philosophy to me!

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