The lure of ehu

Boff replied on 03/03/2019 19:21

Posted on 03/03/2019 19:21

Just come off a Rally on an all singing and dancing commercial site.   They did a deal where the ehu was optional @£3 p/n.   28 vans 25 paid for ehu.  We didn’t refilled the gas bottle after we got back and it cost me £4.51, the bottle had been used for 4  nights on a clubsite so ehu and 3 nights non-ehu so 7 nights in total.  

No moral to this story just numbers.  

Justus2 replied on 06/03/2019 14:59

Posted on 06/03/2019 14:31 by Cornersteady

 

Electricity has RCDs or MCB that will stop the flow if there is a problem with an appliance or the wiring or it detects a leak (to earth). I don't think gas does the same. Imagine a leak in the gas? 

I don't trust gas after the 'engineers' while doing a service left the rubber pipe from the bottle disconnected from the regulator. I turned the gas bottle on and walked away (it was dark) it was only after we could smell gas that we found out what was happening. Now luckily the gas just drained down, but imagine a leak inside the van?

Yes we got a refund and future free service but...

Also did you read that any new homes should not be connected to the gas mains due to environmental concerns?

Posted on 06/03/2019 14:59

Oh dear you have had a bad experience which has understandably left you rather nervous. I, or should it be we,have used gas all our married lives in houses, tents, caravans, and now our motor-home. Gas appliances have flame failure devices for safety, and gas has an added artificial smell to alert you to leaks, we also have a smoke alarm and a carbon monoxide detector. We have never ever had a problem, and I see gas as a safe fuel choice if appliances are checked regularly. I did see the suggestion that new houses could be built gas free.. I wouldn't want to live in an all electric house, I think to some extent they are clutching at straws with the environment thing, but we digress from the thread.

peedee replied on 06/03/2019 14:59

Posted on 06/03/2019 14:59

What I find amusing is that some folk think it will lead to cost reductions in the pitch price. Although this will be the case in the short term, it won't be long before they sneak back up to the same level, plus electric on top

Hopefully competition would keep that in check, in anycase it is a fairer way of charging.

peedee

peedee replied on 06/03/2019 15:04

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:04

My favourite pitch when on route west. It wasn't provided by the Club, the racecourse owners provided it for the outside broadcast vehicle to use on race days. The other non EHU pitches there are the worst on the site.

peedee

peedee replied on 06/03/2019 15:32

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:32

Sorry, for some reason the quote didn't appear on the above post. I was of course refering to the non EHU pitches at Exetet Racecourse.

peedee

Navigateur replied on 06/03/2019 15:35

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:35

I was hoping to find a cost comparison between "smart meter" equipment and otherwise identical equipment without.  Nothing lasts for ever, and as internals, bollards and such like become time expired it may well be just as costly to "go smart" as not. In fact, some of the Caravan Club sites may already be fitted with meters that are not being used and we as the members are not being told about.

With the number of units required by The Caravan Club (and whatever buying cartel exists with the Camping and Caravanning Club) there will be a huge reduction from any published price anyway for whatever unit they choose. In fact, it could well be considered bad practice to install new equipment (as new build or time expired replacement) that was NOT metered.

peedee replied on 06/03/2019 15:41

Posted on 06/03/2019 13:19 by Cornersteady

indeed I agree, but does anyone know the cost on such a meter? then a possible guess of the cost of installing them everywhere?

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:41

Back in 2008 the BHPA published the cost of card meters as being between £125 - £200 per pitch. The actual cost depended on how many pitches were being converted. £125 was the cost for a 40 pitch site. I don't know how much a smart metering system would be but I cannot imagine it to be much more given the way prices of electronic items fall over the years.  However, for the Club to do every pitch on its network would still clearly be costly.

peedee

JVB66 replied on 06/03/2019 15:51

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:41 by peedee

Back in 2008 the BHPA published the cost of card meters as being between £125 - £200 per pitch. The actual cost depended on how many pitches were being converted. £125 was the cost for a 40 pitch site. I don't know how much a smart metering system would be but I cannot imagine it to be much more given the way prices of electronic items fall over the years.  However, for the Club to do every pitch on its network would still clearly be costly.

peedee

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:51

The annual costs to test the EHUs on the club network will, even on a national contract  be costly, add on the cost of calibrating meters will just "assist"pushing site fees higher

peedee replied on 06/03/2019 16:04

Posted on 06/03/2019 16:04

Maintenance is carried out annually now so the cost isn't going to be that much more if anything.  So how much higher do you think site cost would be JVB and what do you base your estimate on?

peedee

replied on 06/03/2019 16:26

Posted on 06/03/2019 15:51 by JVB66

The annual costs to test the EHUs on the club network will, even on a national contract will be costly, add on the cost of calibrating meters will just "assist"pushing site fees higher

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Wherenext replied on 06/03/2019 16:29

Posted on 06/03/2019 16:29

But 200+ sites with an average of 100 pitches (too high?) per site, that's about 20000 bollards, now at say £20 per bollard (too low?) that is £400,000.

Corners, the last time I looked club sites didn't have 1 bollard per pitch. On average about 3 pitches per bollard so I think your guesstimate should be reduced by 66%.

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