How to thrive on a non 240v site!

Good work John. Thank you so much. We are all in your debt.

Kevlon, I fully appreciate and agree with what you are saying. I don't think it's a secret that you are one of the people who found the non EHU threads on this website and decided to do what others had found was perfectly possible. The problem we have as far as I see it is this. Firstly, we have no help from the club and I think, after all the evidence, help will not be forthcoming. Yes, there are non EHU pitches etc on club sites and that is a good thing so at least there is some sort of recognition.

Secondly, although there are a goodly number of non EHUers (I am surrounded by them right now) and the number is growing all the time, the actual amount of those using and posting to the threads is infinitesimally small- what? 10, - 15 at the most? And against a membership of over a million? To back my claim up, since starting down the non EHU road, although I have met dozens of people who have discovered the same as I have, not one posts to the website- 99% of them either don't know it exists or if they do, never use it. I always try to encourage them to post their experiences as it's easy to ignore one or two, it's not so easy to ignore many.

Then we have the trolls! Who come on and not being interested in it themselves, take great pleasure in poking fun or being plain abusive about something they know nothing about as far as experience is concerned. I am not interested in trailer tents for example- can you find any posts in that section from me? Let alone posts taking the pee or being abusive? No. Why would I? I can only come to the conclusion that we as a group and me in particular as one of the main proponents of non EHU IS pressing a button somewhere, - are we making them feel uneasy? but of course, that will be utterly denied by those who prefer to try to cause problems rather than concentrate on subjects they are involved in or have an interest in. Ignoring them is the way to deal with them. So, we have to continue to communicate our message, not to convert or to 'save' the world as has been said, but to allow people like you to have a different approach to their caravanning. You , I think, would be one of the first to admit that it has had a massive change on how you caravan now,  to what the 'status quo' had you doing?  We know that there are folk out there who find the non EHU threads annoying but there are many more who find them educational, interesting and money saving. So yes, any ideas are most welcome.

Brilliant idea! And while we've not yet been there, we do want to pay a visit.... perhaps I'd better wait until we can claim that before voting!

Meanwhile, I'm still post-surgically slow on finishing a letter I'm writing to the C&MC, which I've mentioned on the "greener" thread, but will send it soon; writing  as newish members, saying that while we value much they offer, such things as the complete lack of information on just that list you give, on their "Advice and training" section, are really disappointing, as well as showing they're missing a trick with the growing awareness and interest in such things. (Ditto measures on sites, info in magazine, etc.)

If more people were to write such messages to them, that might hit harder too.

Do you believe that those that correspond on CT are really representative of CC membership? I think it is unlikely. It is only those that can be bothered to state an opinion that have a view point. I suspect the vast majority of members just take their two or three week holiday on a site with perhaps the odd weekend thrown in and have no further interest in anything else.

peedee

There already is a competition for CL of the year. Surely you've all found voting forms when you visited CLs.

Good luck

All of the points raised have been pointed out to the CC many times but as is common knowledge they are strictly ignored.

In fact the CC without hundreds of ignored suggestions and hundreds of ignored complaints just wouldn't feel like home..... so don't try to be too successful

I suspect you're right peedee! 

Ah well. I'll send to them anyway... there was the same sort of response from the world to those weird ideas people began mentioning in the last Millennium about humankind's actions just possibly affecting what happens in the world. Maybe if their cage bars are bashed enough times they'll eventually notice!

hi been looking at an inverter to run a tv while off grid or would it be better to buy a 12v tv any advice please

Very many models are 12v with Avtex being the market leader.

If you convert 12 to 220 volts to power a similar product it is normally less efficient than using 12v directly.

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