An appeal to Safefill users - and others!

I've never seen so much heat with so little light generated since the infamous Sunday Departures thread. Morrisons are now accepting the filling of Safefills across their network. Merve is encouraging Safefill users to lobby other chains to widen the availability of filling points. Why should non-users care? It's no skin of their nose either way.

Could I just add my point of view here....

As an Autosleeper owner, we have a Gas-it under-slung tank on our van.. As far as I know most if not all AS vans have had this system fitted for several years, there is no conventional gas bottle option as an alternative.

We usually fill locally, with LPG auto-gas, from the one local garage(BP) who sell it. Our local Morrisons don't have LPG but I have used Morrisons in the past elsewhere, and BP garages too whilst away. I have never been refused if they had stock. 

I usually use www.filllpg.co.uk to find LPG retailers if away from home, but prefer to use my local dealer in the hope that it will help to continue the availability of LPG locally.

Although LPG auto-gas is available nationally, retailers are quite rare compared to other vehicle fuels. I have also visited sites to buy gas where I have been unable to get my filler near the auto gas pump as it has been on the "wrong side" at a busy service station, or have found the location to have stopped gas altogether, or once completely closed down and derelict. 

As a result, you become cautious, perhaps paranoid, if your gas levels drop below half full, even though that would maybe last 2 weeks, and the best plan, I find, is to top the tank up asap at half full.

Any attempt to increase the number of autogas LPG retailers willing and able to sell it for on board leisure use rather than for propulsion, should in my opinion be encouraged.

PS.. I would also like to add that those who have either sold bought or indeed used illegal and dangerous adaptors to refill rented propane bottles have done nothing but harm to those of us who use perfectly legal and safe refillable systems whatever the make may be. 

Any attempt to increase the number of autogas LPG retailers willing and able to sell it for on board leisure use rather than for propulsion, should in my opinion be encouraged.

And that is what this thread is all about!!  but as I suspected has been hijacked by a few who just want to ‘have a go’. They have nothing to contribute, are not interested in refillables and are not interested  in helping anyone who would  like to get more fill points!  It’s a totally negative & destructive approach to a problem that many face. Many in the past have said that they would buy a refillable- I’ll use the term refillables- but wouldn’t do so because of difficulties with finding a fill point. Is it really that difficult for some to understand that others may want or even need this? 

Anyway, on a more positive note, I have received an email back from Mr Richard Cox, the M.D. of The KAY Group Ltd (Euro Garages)  thanking me for my communication and saying that he is going to look at this seriously by contacting those who know more about it than he in a nutshell. So at least we are bringing the whole subject of cylinders into the fresh air so that policies can be looked at again and hopefully revised in light of the new technologies. Thanks everyone.

Absolutely Justus! Bang on. The Safefill (or other equally good cylinder) is about overt filling and not covert filling. With an effort, we can get these criminals, because that’s what they are, off our forecourts for good as there is now no need to covertly fill a Steel cylinder with some dodgy valve. The new generation of lightweight self fill cylinders has changed the landscape. We, as a group can change minds and bring education & help,not only ourselves, but increase the business of Garage groups.  Please help support your own hobby by lobbing these groups. 

Thanks for that, Justus. We have the same system and, being new to it, I’ve been trying to understand how this fits into the grand scheme of things in terms of refillables because that’s all it is really, a permanently fitted refillable. You’ve explained a lot now that we’ve been able to drag ourselves away from talking about one particular make.

Perhaps folk won’t be so quick to assume the worst about others of us as there are different facets to the picture.

+1 🙂

Why don’t you just come out and call me a liar DD? Why don’t you stop speaking tosh and have the courage to ring Safefill. I have never said that the name ‘Safefill’ is mentioned in the Red Guide! That would be ridiculous- it’s you that’s giving out fake news. If it wasn’t true that the Red Guide had been ammended to include  refillables, I think Safefill would have been in court by now! But I can tell you this without any fear of reprisal- IT WAS SAFEFILL THAT MOVED THE GOAL POSTS AND MADE THIS POSSIBLE FOR REFILLABLES! As far as sht 26 is concerned, UKLPG have not issued the ammended St 26. I wonder why when it is made up of staff and execs from Calor and Flo?? mmmm difficult one that.  Now, let’s please try to get more fill points for the members of CAMC and others! 

I couldn't agree more