An open letter to the Community Manager - reviews

Tinwheeler replied on 11/08/2019 19:02

Posted on 11/08/2019 19:02

Dear Rowena,

I think the time has come to press you on the issue of comments made on reviews. I know you are very busy but the situation is becoming rather discordant and inconsistent.

You have posted some information concerning the content of reviews recently but I can see nothing from you regarding the posting of comments. David Klyne, in the thread titled Reviews, posted some words on the subject on 04.08.19 and my post (pictured below) seeking further information was also reported to you in an effort to establish clarification. Unfortunately, I’ve not seen a response from any source.

Yesterday (10.08.19), a new review appeared which was clearly in breach of the Community Guidelines and several of us commented explaining how the Guidelines answered the poster's question. Seemingly legitimate responses were subsequently Deleted User fairly quickly yet the review remained until early afternoon today when it was quite rightly removed. Can you imagine the confusion this caused?

I have no intention of querying moderation here but, obviously, different people have different views on what is acceptable and what is not and it is that very difference and lack of guidance relating to comments which is causing a less than standardised approach.

Therefore, may I please ask for a definitive clarification of what is, or is not, permitted in comments on reviews to be included in the Guidelines? We, as posters, need to know what is acceptable to yourself and the moderators so that we can all sing from the same song sheet.

Regards.

TW

 

Takethedogalong replied on 13/08/2019 10:22

Posted on 13/08/2019 08:52 by

There seems a lot more faith here  in the chance of a written complaint being dealt with fairly (or even at all) than has been born out by my experience of writing to the club.I have twice  has cause to do so and it left me feeling that I was dealing with a deeply defensive organization with a customer service ethos stuck in the past.

I found it very slow to respond with an over emphasis on small print and a willingness to take a small claim  that would have been settled in moments in M&S (or any other retailer)  right up to the CEO. On another occasion they as a major booking agent refused to follow up a complaint with Brittany ferries  that I as a single customer was then myself able to satisfactorily resolve .

This is not Club and its customers need to keep that in mind in any dispute.

Posted on 13/08/2019 10:22

I wouldn’t disagree with what you have written, it mirrors the one none staff related issue we have had with the Club. What you have written doesn’t personalise nor abuse an individual it’s a corporate failing, and that’s the difference. 

I think it’s fine to leave negative comments about a Site. But abusing a member of staff is different. They have no recourse to respond, it’s probably a term of employment. They have to rely upon their employer to investigate and take down personalised comments that might or might not be untrue, and investigate them further. If you provide and advertise a review section, then it has to be monitored as a duty of care towards staff.

Cornersteady replied on 13/08/2019 10:54

Posted on 13/08/2019 09:30 by

Selectively  quoting againundecided My point was subjective comments should stand.

What's yours?

Posted on 13/08/2019 10:54

they do stand, as they do is your post. Slow to you may be fast to others, why your definition is the accurate one? 

My point is that I personally think a complaint handled no matter how fast or slow, is better than cyber bullying, but your may think differently?

 

Cornersteady replied on 13/08/2019 11:01

Posted on 13/08/2019 09:53 by huskydog

I don't suppose my customers are really bothered about my welfare , there more interested in buying their pet supplies 

Posted on 13/08/2019 11:01

I'm not sure i'm anymore concerned about the welfare of club staff as I am for the Sainsburys staff where I shop , they know what they are letting themselves in for

so if they were abusive or lied about your shop online, you would just think 'I knew what I was letting myself in for?' 

No matter what the job everyone deserves to treated with respect and decency, as said in Rocky's post, no one goes into a job thinking otherwise. I think it is nonsense that wardens (or staff at sainburys) think they can be treated abusively and just shrug it off as that's part of I job, I knew it would be?

huskydog replied on 13/08/2019 11:13

Posted on 13/08/2019 10:54 by Cornersteady

they do stand, as they do is your post. Slow to you may be fast to others, why your definition is the accurate one? 

My point is that I personally think a complaint handled no matter how fast or slow, is better than cyber bullying, but your may think differently?

 

Posted on 13/08/2019 11:13

I don't think anyone is Cyber bulling a warden ,so are you saying that if I put in a review that " Fred the warden was rude " is that  cyber bulling ??

SteveL replied on 13/08/2019 11:36

Posted on 13/08/2019 11:36

I tend to agree with Husky. I can't see anything wrong with polite non abusive comments, that don't go into endless detail. To say you were not happy with the site staff as you found them offhand should be allowable. It is after all a site review and the staff look after it.🤔 The comment might be subjective but then you have been asked to review your opinions.

If I was reviewing a restaurant l would feel justified in mentioning that the table waiting was poor or rushed, not up to their usual standard etc.

More detailed issues should be dealt with as a formal complaint. 

Cornersteady replied on 13/08/2019 11:39

Posted on 13/08/2019 11:13 by huskydog

I don't think anyone is Cyber bulling a warden ,so are you saying that if I put in a review that " Fred the warden was rude " is that  cyber bulling ??

Posted on 13/08/2019 11:39

Well, yes, you should look into cyber bullying (ask any teacher or google it).

Fred has no right of reply, it may be true or may not. Fred may be upset that he is being called rude on a public forum for anyone to read. It may affect his professional reputation.

 

Cyberbullying is the use of technology to harass, threaten, embarrass, or target another person

Cyberbullying includes sending, posting, or sharing negative, harmful, false, or mean content about someone else.

Cyberbullying can take many forms. The following are just a few examples:
Harassing a user over an instant messaging session.
Posting derogatory messages on a user's Facebook or MySpace page.
Circulating false rumours about someone on social networking websites.

Cyberbullying Effects. Like all forms of bullying, cyberbullying causes psychological, emotional and physical stress. 

Takethedogalong replied on 13/08/2019 12:19

Posted on 13/08/2019 12:19

It’s a matter of understanding the difference between

”I wasn’t happy at the Site staff as I found them offhand” (impersonal, objective overall impression)

”Fred the Warden was rude” (very personal and subjective)

Both examples need investigation, and possibly retraining, neither are abusive, but if Fred is having mental health issues, then who knows what might happen if he reads the review! Hence the duty of care towards staff. 

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