Mole Traps

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 08:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 08:58

I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy.

As Members surely we have the right to decide whether we'd be happy seeing mole hills, or whether we'd prefer to trap and kill moles, sometimes not immediately killing them and leaving them to suffer.

I wonder why the Wardens can't just remove the erupted earth if it's deemed unsightly?

On top of this, what if a dog dug them up and got injured.  Many terriers and hounds would be very interested in digging where something like a trap has been buried.

Moles are not the enemy, they aerate soil and eat pests...see link below:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494935/9042554/Living+with+-+moles+-+formatted+%28V1.2%29+-+2017.pdf/61a0a5f6-b28e-c46e-042d-5b8fecf54207?t=1553171460360&download=true

I would like to see Members being given the opportunity to vote on such cruel practices and whether they feel their Club should continue with them.

In my opinion, if people think natural occurrences like mole hills are unsightly they should question why they want to go caravanning - isn't it getting out into nature, not being in pristine, bowling green like sites?

I'd be interested to hear other people's views on the subject.

JVB66 replied on 02/10/2021 10:03

Posted on 02/10/2021 10:03

We live on the side of the Minram Valley so the majority of houses (ours included)have terraced gardens eithr front or back, our rear garden is terraced on three levels, and we have this year decided (age as well) to leave the top part of the garden as a "meadow" it has been quite enlightening just how much add "wildlife and flowers" it has brought iin to the garden

DEBSC replied on 02/10/2021 10:20

Posted on 02/10/2021 09:39 by Rocky 2 buckets

You have a beautiful soul one to be proud of, we all make mistakes but your attitude & outlook is one to be celebrated. We share this planet with many species, more like you & no one would walk in fear of their lives. Bad people start with their bad attitude to other species. . .Then it goes downhill as they get older. Celebrate the person you areπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ™‚

Posted on 02/10/2021 10:20

Thank you Rocky they are very kind words. I’m not proud, that is how we should all be .. and I still kill slugs. What I am proud of is our children and grandchildren. Our daughter has been vegetarian from the age of 8, as are 3 of our 6 grandchildren. Our son, who is a no nonsense sort of man, told me about the sugar water trick for bees. It really works, they just get exhausted working and appear to be dying, after a ‘feed’ and a rest, they fly off quite happily. None of our kids would kill anything. I get into great trouble about the slugs.

ADP1963 replied on 02/10/2021 11:58

Posted on 02/10/2021 11:58

We also live in the country, up a narrow lane surrounded by field's. Come winter and only during winter we feed the Birds and are prepared to suffer the consequences of doing so i.e Rats & Mice. The joy we get from doing so far out ways the vermin problem and have in fact seen Owls hunting in the garden. However this is our lifestyle we prefer to watch our feathered friends than Television in daytime,

JVB66 replied on 02/10/2021 12:42

Posted on 02/10/2021 12:42

Some years ago we were staying on a non facility club site ,when the local hunt ,in hot pursuit of a fox which came onto the site and hid under a caravan ,smile

  The fox hounds tried to come on site but were prevented by the site staff closing the gate,to the annoyance of the hunt

They had no answer we several members wanted to know why ,they stiil carried out such a barbaric way of life, when the vast majority of the population ,were now more civilisedsurprised

They gave up when they  could see their blood lust was not going anywherefrown

The fox stayed around the site for several hourslaughing ,and food was left for it

replied on 02/10/2021 13:26

Posted on 02/10/2021 12:42 by JVB66

Some years ago we were staying on a non facility club site ,when the local hunt ,in hot pursuit of a fox which came onto the site and hid under a caravan ,smile

  The fox hounds tried to come on site but were prevented by the site staff closing the gate,to the annoyance of the hunt

They had no answer we several members wanted to know why ,they stiil carried out such a barbaric way of life, when the vast majority of the population ,were now more civilisedsurprised

They gave up when they  could see their blood lust was not going anywherefrown

The fox stayed around the site for several hourslaughing ,and food was left for it

Posted on 02/10/2021 13:26

Something similar at my in-laws about 35 years ago. My family and I were having lunch with them when a fox came running up the stoned private track outside, past the dining room window. Mum in law dashed out to garage which was never locked and opened the door chasing the fox inside as the hounds arrived. I had picked up a chestnut paling and set about the hounds and told the hunt that if they came into the parking area that they were next. 

DEBSC replied on 02/10/2021 14:05

Posted on 02/10/2021 14:05

I hate the hunt. Around here it is not just foxes but deer they chase, we often have deer in the garden and some sleep there overnight. Not so long ago the hunt were in the woods right behind the wire fence at the bottom of our garden. The dogs, who I feel sorry for, were being rounded up by the whipper in. Just as well because they could have easily got into any of the surrounding gardens and most have cats. He was that close that he raised his hat to me and said good morning. I’m afraid ‘something’ off, was my reply and I don’t even feel bad about it.

replied on 02/10/2021 15:03

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Compo replied on 02/10/2021 15:15

Posted on 02/10/2021 15:15

It's great to see that so many people think so much about the small creatures that live on this planet. If only we thought as much about the planet itself. Maybe it's time to give up driving motorhomes and towing caravans up and down the country so as to do our bit to help save the planet.

DEBSC replied on 02/10/2021 15:27

Posted on 02/10/2021 15:15 by Compo

It's great to see that so many people think so much about the small creatures that live on this planet. If only we thought as much about the planet itself. Maybe it's time to give up driving motorhomes and towing caravans up and down the country so as to do our bit to help save the planet.

Posted on 02/10/2021 15:27

On the other hand Compo at least we are not jetting off to far flung places using fuel. Soon cars will be electric, not so sure that’s a real improvement though.

Fisherman replied on 02/10/2021 15:30

Posted on 02/10/2021 15:30

Selectivity in everything we do. Just see what some of the posters say here.

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