Mole Traps

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 08:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 08:58

I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy.

As Members surely we have the right to decide whether we'd be happy seeing mole hills, or whether we'd prefer to trap and kill moles, sometimes not immediately killing them and leaving them to suffer.

I wonder why the Wardens can't just remove the erupted earth if it's deemed unsightly?

On top of this, what if a dog dug them up and got injured.  Many terriers and hounds would be very interested in digging where something like a trap has been buried.

Moles are not the enemy, they aerate soil and eat pests...see link below:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494935/9042554/Living+with+-+moles+-+formatted+%28V1.2%29+-+2017.pdf/61a0a5f6-b28e-c46e-042d-5b8fecf54207?t=1553171460360&download=true

I would like to see Members being given the opportunity to vote on such cruel practices and whether they feel their Club should continue with them.

In my opinion, if people think natural occurrences like mole hills are unsightly they should question why they want to go caravanning - isn't it getting out into nature, not being in pristine, bowling green like sites?

I'd be interested to hear other people's views on the subject.

Cornersteady replied on 01/10/2021 10:49

Posted on 01/10/2021 10:28 by Fisherman

Read the media re Rats as big as Cats. Could be near you soon.

Posted on 01/10/2021 10:49

ooh that  is scary, well to 'us city dwellers' Fish but surely to 'you country folk' you'll take it in your stride?

But I like your poetic writing style.

JohnM20 replied on 01/10/2021 10:56

Posted on 28/09/2021 10:47 by

Did anyone  else see the episode  of the "Yorkshire Farm" where the father was paying his eldest son a bounty (£3 I think) to catch moles because of  the hazard they present to cattle.

Posted on 01/10/2021 10:56

I don't know the exact details but it is not the molehills that cause the problem to cattle it is the  soil from the molehills getting caught up in the haylage when the grass is being cut. This causes some bacterial infection in the fodder which is very dangerous to cattle. In balance, does one kill a mole to prevent a problem or potentially kill a cow? 

replied on 01/10/2021 16:17

Posted on 01/10/2021 10:56 by JohnM20

I don't know the exact details but it is not the molehills that cause the problem to cattle it is the  soil from the molehills getting caught up in the haylage when the grass is being cut. This causes some bacterial infection in the fodder which is very dangerous to cattle. In balance, does one kill a mole to prevent a problem or potentially kill a cow? 

Posted on 01/10/2021 16:17

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LLM replied on 01/10/2021 16:29

Posted on 01/10/2021 10:56 by JohnM20

I don't know the exact details but it is not the molehills that cause the problem to cattle it is the  soil from the molehills getting caught up in the haylage when the grass is being cut. This causes some bacterial infection in the fodder which is very dangerous to cattle. In balance, does one kill a mole to prevent a problem or potentially kill a cow? 

Posted on 01/10/2021 16:29

Listeriosis is an infectious disease caused by a bacterium, Listeria monocytogenes. Nasty but rare in cattle and humans and treatable with antibiotics.  

Fisherman replied on 01/10/2021 16:45

Posted on 01/10/2021 16:45

By trapping you humanely kill your pest. Not only that but they dont become resistant to  the poisons. Rats in urban places are controlled by Warfarin type which induces hemorrhaging and a slow death. Over time they become resistant to the poison ,a bit like humans and antibiotics. In effect the rural way is more humane. By the way the price is now five pounds pus.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 01/10/2021 16:55

Posted on 01/10/2021 16:45 by Fisherman

By trapping you humanely kill your pest. Not only that but they dont become resistant to  the poisons. Rats in urban places are controlled by Warfarin type which induces hemorrhaging and a slow death. Over time they become resistant to the poison ,a bit like humans and antibiotics. In effect the rural way is more humane. By the way the price is now five pounds pus.

Posted on 01/10/2021 16:55

The most humane way is to leave em alone & stop messing with the natural order. Just because you/they don’t like em don’t mean they should die. The uncaring face of Humans is slowly but surely becoming unacceptable. They are all our relations from aeons past, there is enough room for us all with a bit of respect.

replied on 01/10/2021 18:30

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Wherenext replied on 01/10/2021 18:56

Posted on 01/10/2021 18:56

At least a Cat is a natural predator, although I dislike the way they sometimes toy with their prey before dispatching it.

I lean towards the "Rocky" spectrum. I have caught Rats in a humane trap, driven them 2 miles away and released them into woods rather than kill them. 

We stayed on a cattle farm this year. The owner told me that only 1 of her 2 working farming sons could be trusted to take an animal to be euthanised as the other would bring it back alive, so another example of why not all "Rural folk" should be lumped together, the same as "town folk". Pigeon holes should be left to the Pigeons.

Fisherman replied on 01/10/2021 19:25

Posted on 01/10/2021 19:25

I suppose no one squashed a bluebottle, contaminating your kitchen or a slug eating your lettuce, etc, etc. What one call selective control

Wherenext replied on 01/10/2021 19:39

Posted on 01/10/2021 19:25 by Fisherman

I suppose no one squashed a bluebottle, contaminating your kitchen or a slug eating your lettuce, etc, etc. What one call selective control

Posted on 01/10/2021 19:39

I actually remove all slugs without killing them. They go to a nasty neighbours garden as I'm passing.laughing 

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