Mole Traps

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 08:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 08:58

I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy.

As Members surely we have the right to decide whether we'd be happy seeing mole hills, or whether we'd prefer to trap and kill moles, sometimes not immediately killing them and leaving them to suffer.

I wonder why the Wardens can't just remove the erupted earth if it's deemed unsightly?

On top of this, what if a dog dug them up and got injured.  Many terriers and hounds would be very interested in digging where something like a trap has been buried.

Moles are not the enemy, they aerate soil and eat pests...see link below:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494935/9042554/Living+with+-+moles+-+formatted+%28V1.2%29+-+2017.pdf/61a0a5f6-b28e-c46e-042d-5b8fecf54207?t=1553171460360&download=true

I would like to see Members being given the opportunity to vote on such cruel practices and whether they feel their Club should continue with them.

In my opinion, if people think natural occurrences like mole hills are unsightly they should question why they want to go caravanning - isn't it getting out into nature, not being in pristine, bowling green like sites?

I'd be interested to hear other people's views on the subject.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 01/10/2021 20:16

Posted on 01/10/2021 19:39 by Wherenext

I actually remove all slugs without killing them. They go to a nasty neighbours garden as I'm passing.laughing 

Posted on 01/10/2021 20:16

I pick up the slugs & snails from the garden trot into the meadow 50mtrs & liberate them, I don’t doubt they come back-it takes a long time mind😂. I’ve promised myself one year I’ll mark every snail shell with a coloured marker to see if the do get back👍🏻

DavidKlyne replied on 01/10/2021 20:27

Posted on 01/10/2021 20:27

I lean towards the "Rocky" spectrum. I have caught Rats in a humane trap, driven them 2 miles away and released them into woods rather than kill them.

Isn't illegal to do that. I seem to recall someone being fined £1500 for trapping and releasing away from where they were caught. Whilst I understand that some may feel that a more humane way of dealing with unwanted pests the law views it as a way of causing the animal extra stress and comes down on the side of  humane despatching at point of capture. 

David 

Fisherman replied on 01/10/2021 21:28

Posted on 01/10/2021 21:28

Debate gets feebler and  feebler. Illegal, Bad neighbours etc.  Pathetic really.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 01/10/2021 21:49

Posted on 01/10/2021 20:27 by DavidKlyne

I lean towards the "Rocky" spectrum. I have caught Rats in a humane trap, driven them 2 miles away and released them into woods rather than kill them.

Isn't illegal to do that. I seem to recall someone being fined £1500 for trapping and releasing away from where they were caught. Whilst I understand that some may feel that a more humane way of dealing with unwanted pests the law views it as a way of causing the animal extra stress and comes down on the side of  humane despatching at point of capture. 

David 

Posted on 01/10/2021 21:49

Yes I can imagine the local constabulary boasting they kicked down the door of someone suspected of moving slugs from their garden rather than killing them. Folk who’ve been burgled, speeders down local streets being ignored & thieves being left to steal to prioritise slug liberators. I’m no expert but your-‘isn’t it illegal to do that’ doesn’t seem logical to me🤷🏻‍♂️

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 01/10/2021 21:52

Posted on 01/10/2021 21:28 by Fisherman

Debate gets feebler and  feebler. Illegal, Bad neighbours etc.  Pathetic really.

Posted on 01/10/2021 21:52

I think it’s feeble to kill wildlife, even worse to pretend they’re taking over the world when all you need to do is accept you enjoy killing things & stop pretending it’s sport🤷🏻‍♂️☹️

Wherenext replied on 01/10/2021 21:56

Posted on 01/10/2021 21:56

Next time I'll ask the Rat to stand still while I hit it with a Hammer or maybe just throw it in a bucket of water and let it drown. How can you say it's not Humane to let something live and being "Humane" is killing it? Upside down to me.

I don't think the Rat will "Rat" on me.

I rather think the Police Force have a bit more on their plate at the moment.

If it makes Fish feel any better the slugs are moved to the woods at the back of our home. There's plenty to eat out there. He has to try to understand Smileys.

DavidKlyne replied on 01/10/2021 22:19

Posted on 01/10/2021 21:56 by Wherenext

Next time I'll ask the Rat to stand still while I hit it with a Hammer or maybe just throw it in a bucket of water and let it drown. How can you say it's not Humane to let something live and being "Humane" is killing it? Upside down to me.

I don't think the Rat will "Rat" on me.

I rather think the Police Force have a bit more on their plate at the moment.

If it makes Fish feel any better the slugs are moved to the woods at the back of our home. There's plenty to eat out there. He has to try to understand Smileys.

Posted on 01/10/2021 22:19

Its not me saying that, as I understand it, it is the law. https://theconversation.com/rescued-grey-squirrels-to-be-killed-under-new-law-but-britains-invasive-problem-runs-much-deeper-128270 At one point I thought i had a squirrel in my loft and initially thought that I would trap it and release it away from where I lived, (I once did that to a field mouse that somehow got in the house) but reading up on it I didn't and fortunately it went away! What I don't understand is anyone thinking that releasing a rat elsewhere would solve the problem, more like creating a problem for someone else?

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 02/10/2021 07:21

Posted on 01/10/2021 22:19 by DavidKlyne

Its not me saying that, as I understand it, it is the law. https://theconversation.com/rescued-grey-squirrels-to-be-killed-under-new-law-but-britains-invasive-problem-runs-much-deeper-128270 At one point I thought i had a squirrel in my loft and initially thought that I would trap it and release it away from where I lived, (I once did that to a field mouse that somehow got in the house) but reading up on it I didn't and fortunately it went away! What I don't understand is anyone thinking that releasing a rat elsewhere would solve the problem, more like creating a problem for someone else?

Posted on 02/10/2021 07:21

DK, I live in one of the most rural areas of East Yorkshire it’s mainly Arable land where fields of wheat/barley/oats & rapeseed stretch for countless miles. We are surrounded by a food source for every rodent that lives in this Country. When the harvest is in & the cold weather bites they look for warmth & food they find the warmth in my outbuildings but not food, food is what brings them in near contact with us. Cut off the food & they will not bother you. We had chickens-we had rats, we fed the birds-we had rats. We no longer have chickens nor feed the birds. We will have rodents around us but they’re not seen nor heard. I will share my garden with them without harming them but they have no reason whatsoever to come in the house. There’s the rub, I have them but nothing to attract them. They can be dissuaded but not many are strict enough.

DEBSC replied on 02/10/2021 09:29

Posted on 02/10/2021 09:29

I would like to say I don’t or couldn’t kill anything but sadly that would be untrue. Spiders are left to roam, unless in the bath, then they are put outside. Flies are shooed outside, never killed. Sonic sound to deter mice in the shed. Any sick/tired bees found in the garden are fed sugar water from a spoon. No slug pellets as we have a sometimes visiting hedgehog. Snails are flung over the woods at the end of the garden, and yes I think they do come back. And then slugs - they strip my plants in a night, so I am very sorry to say that when found I cleanly and quickly chop them in half with a trowel. Then I feel guilty.. the snails live the slugs die. About 10 years ago I tipped boiling water on a huge ants nest just outside the back door, they were all over the kitchen, never again, the guilt was too much, I still feel bad about it. 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 02/10/2021 09:39

Posted on 02/10/2021 09:29 by DEBSC

I would like to say I don’t or couldn’t kill anything but sadly that would be untrue. Spiders are left to roam, unless in the bath, then they are put outside. Flies are shooed outside, never killed. Sonic sound to deter mice in the shed. Any sick/tired bees found in the garden are fed sugar water from a spoon. No slug pellets as we have a sometimes visiting hedgehog. Snails are flung over the woods at the end of the garden, and yes I think they do come back. And then slugs - they strip my plants in a night, so I am very sorry to say that when found I cleanly and quickly chop them in half with a trowel. Then I feel guilty.. the snails live the slugs die. About 10 years ago I tipped boiling water on a huge ants nest just outside the back door, they were all over the kitchen, never again, the guilt was too much, I still feel bad about it. 

Posted on 02/10/2021 09:39

You have a beautiful soul one to be proud of, we all make mistakes but your attitude & outlook is one to be celebrated. We share this planet with many species, more like you & no one would walk in fear of their lives. Bad people start with their bad attitude to other species. . .Then it goes downhill as they get older. Celebrate the person you are👍🏻🙂

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