The Planet in Peril

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 13:39

Posted on 08/10/2018 13:39

The very latest predictions paint a challenging future for us and our hobby. Some would suggest grim even whilst others suggest that with intervention and a change to our habits all is not lost. What changes to our leisure pursuits and lives do folk think will make that difference for our future generations?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45775309 

 

jennyc replied on 11/10/2018 20:05

Posted on 11/10/2018 18:57 by cyberyacht

I received an Email from P&O touting their cruises. It contained the usual photogenic couple with the Briksdal Glacier as a backdrop. I was there nine years ago and I can't believe how much it has receded in that time. Very scary.

Posted on 11/10/2018 20:05

Since Victorian times, we’ve been trying to make a North West passage between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. A North East passage was unthinkable. Now the Russians are operating cruises between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, around Siberia. How? Because global warming has melted enough ice.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/10/2018 20:55

Posted on 11/10/2018 20:55

It wasn’t that long ago that the darling of the climatistas was ‘global cooling’ it was vaunted that the Thames would host ‘frost fairs’ & the sea would partially freeze over. That was soon dropped for the catchier title of-‘global warming’, frost fairs eh?, now where have I heard that before🤔🙄🙄

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/10/2018 21:04

Posted on 11/10/2018 21:04

I’m sure Human action was to blame back in 1683🙄🙄

 

The Frost Fair in 1683 / 84

During the Great Winter of 1683 / 84, where even the seas of southern Britain were frozen solid for up to two miles from shore, the most famous frost fair was held: The Blanket Fair.

brue replied on 11/10/2018 21:41

Posted on 11/10/2018 21:41

Thanks to wiki and the BBC we're in an ice age now, all 2.6 million years of it, now in the Holocene era....wink

jennyc replied on 11/10/2018 22:29

Posted on 11/10/2018 20:55 by Rocky 2 buckets

It wasn’t that long ago that the darling of the climatistas was ‘global cooling’ it was vaunted that the Thames would host ‘frost fairs’ & the sea would partially freeze over. That was soon dropped for the catchier title of-‘global warming’, frost fairs eh?, now where have I heard that before🤔🙄🙄

Posted on 11/10/2018 22:29

A review of this brief period in history reveals far fewer supporters than we have for global warming theory today, a shortage of accurate data and a science in its infancy. Not so much a ‘darling’, more a possibility, subsequently dismissed.

Cornersteady replied on 11/10/2018 22:37

Posted on 11/10/2018 21:41 by brue

Thanks to wiki and the BBC we're in an ice age now, all 2.6 million years of it, now in the Holocene era....wink

Posted on 11/10/2018 22:37

indeed, if the melting ice in places is reavealing more fossils then at one time they had to be no ice there? ? Also there were times when there was little or no ice at the poles.

Cornersteady replied on 11/10/2018 22:39

Posted on 11/10/2018 20:05 by jennyc

Since Victorian times, we’ve been trying to make a North West passage between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. A North East passage was unthinkable. Now the Russians are operating cruises between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, around Siberia. How? Because global warming has melted enough ice.

Posted on 11/10/2018 22:39

it is the reasons why that matter though, not that it is happening. It happened before, why then? why now?

brue replied on 11/10/2018 22:52

Posted on 11/10/2018 22:37 by Cornersteady

indeed, if the melting ice in places is reavealing more fossils then at one time they had to be no ice there? ? Also there were times when there was little or no ice at the poles.

Posted on 11/10/2018 22:52

I think you'll find that the magnetic poles have shifted over time but the reasoning behind the warnings of global warming isn't to do with natural changes but man made ones. smile

Cornersteady replied on 11/10/2018 23:06

Posted on 11/10/2018 22:52 by brue

I think you'll find that the magnetic poles have shifted over time but the reasoning behind the warnings of global warming isn't to do with natural changes but man made ones. smile

Posted on 11/10/2018 23:06

but if global warming happened before (and it most definitely did as the retreat of the glaciers formed the lake district) what caused it then? 

nor sure what magnetic poles have to do with it? There are others? 

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