The Planet in Peril

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 13:39

Posted on 08/10/2018 13:39

The very latest predictions paint a challenging future for us and our hobby. Some would suggest grim even whilst others suggest that with intervention and a change to our habits all is not lost. What changes to our leisure pursuits and lives do folk think will make that difference for our future generations?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45775309 

 

Tinwheeler replied on 08/10/2018 13:50

Posted on 08/10/2018 13:50

Changes in our ways will make very little difference at all.

Until countries like China change their ways, anything we do in the UK is but a spot in the ocean. 

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 14:03

Posted on 08/10/2018 14:03

Yes but should we just carry on as is then on that predicted course and just turn that blind eye. Should we let the likes of the 'USA' and China lead us to this future?  

I do believe that rather than us making decisions about our habits and choices, these decisions will be made for us by others and these will radically change our 'ways'! 

Tinwheeler replied on 08/10/2018 14:20

Posted on 08/10/2018 14:20

I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do our bit or turn a blind eye but a hefty dose of realism says that we, as a tiny country, can make very little difference by our actions in global terms.

Where we can make a difference is by persuading others and I fear that’s pretty much a lost cause.

huskydog replied on 08/10/2018 14:25

Posted on 08/10/2018 14:25

We don't even have a universal recycling system across the country , so until we get our act together ,there no point trying to get other countries to be more proactive 

Kennine replied on 08/10/2018 16:00

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:00

No we are not in peril.   It's just that the entrepreneurs who manufacture and retail so called "Green Energy" products have been very clever and started a massive bandwagon.  What we are seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to all the hype.  ------ The earth has always fluctuated in temperature over millions of years, it's perfectly natural.  Nothing to worry about. 

Ksmile

Hedgehurst replied on 08/10/2018 16:34

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:00 by Kennine

No we are not in peril.   It's just that the entrepreneurs who manufacture and retail so called "Green Energy" products have been very clever and started a massive bandwagon.  What we are seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to all the hype.  ------ The earth has always fluctuated in temperature over millions of years, it's perfectly natural.  Nothing to worry about. 

Ksmile

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:34

Oh dear.

Cornersteady replied on 08/10/2018 16:38

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:34 by Hedgehurst

Oh dear.

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:38

why the oh dear HH? It sort of implies disapproval. While you may not agree with K's view I am (strangely here) defending K's right to state it and maybe you could come back with something better than oh dear? 

Tinwheeler replied on 08/10/2018 16:48

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:34 by Hedgehurst

Oh dear.

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:48

You sound just like Merve there.

What's the problem, HH? I felt much like that about the thread you started but I responded with a few comments of my own rather than a meaningless one liner,

Much as it pains me to say it๐Ÿ˜†, K does have a point although that’s not to say he is correct. Debate it if you don’t agree.

brue replied on 08/10/2018 17:09

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:00 by Kennine

No we are not in peril.   It's just that the entrepreneurs who manufacture and retail so called "Green Energy" products have been very clever and started a massive bandwagon.  What we are seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to all the hype.  ------ The earth has always fluctuated in temperature over millions of years, it's perfectly natural.  Nothing to worry about. 

Ksmile

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:09

Well ok then, do we wait whilst our oceans fill up with plastics and our skies fill up with pollutants when previously changes in temperature where made by forces of nature rather than man made at a rapid pace? I think the scientists observing these changes probably have a point to make.

Anyway Kennine, I'm glad you have nothing to worry about....wink

Incidentally, China has been on a programme of cutting back on pollutants, it's just that they have a few long standing issues with human rights etc.

As an extra thought, we have been driving round Cornwall in our EV, it got down here ok, 140 miles plus. We're charging it up on a slow charge in the holiday rental garage but we're not using much electricity to keep it going. We topped up with fuel for the range extender (REX), which cost £9. We hear BMW won't be producing further cars with REXs which is a bit disappointing to hear although the driving range should be increasing in the new output designs. So there you go, EVs do work and if EV tow cars aren't developed it looks fairly certain motorhomes will be. smile

 

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