The Planet in Peril

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 13:39

Posted on 08/10/2018 13:39

The very latest predictions paint a challenging future for us and our hobby. Some would suggest grim even whilst others suggest that with intervention and a change to our habits all is not lost. What changes to our leisure pursuits and lives do folk think will make that difference for our future generations?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45775309 

 

brue replied on 08/10/2018 17:36

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:36

Hedgehurst. It's a "sticky" at the top of the tow car section, I've just posted a reply on there. smile

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 17:38

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:38

Yes, the worlds temperatures have fluctuated, sometime dramatically, the effects of which can last for millennia and longer. Take for example the last mega volcanic phase which caused devistation to the flora and fauna of that time. This was due to the volcanic outpouring of gas and material into the upper atmosphere. The only difference today is that with little volcanic activity world wide, it's the human activity, the use of fossil fuels and other chemicals which are now being 'forced' into the atmosphere which is influencing global temperatures and possibly accelerating that natural cycle beyond that expected.

 

Hedgehurst replied on 08/10/2018 17:49

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:30 by Cornersteady

indeed, it is a shame that you try and dictate what can and cannot be discussed? 

I just hoped that we'd got beyond that stage.

According to who? you?

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:49

I didn't mean to appear dictatorial, sad if it seemed so.

  Given the weight of most independent scientific comment, and the growing acceptance of the problem as real, I was hoping to move the discussion onto "what can we do?" rather than going round the track of whether the problem existed, and was working on the premise that it does, and we need to address it.

The OP here was asking what changes it might make to future generations. Since my own thread was closed - and I don't feel it was initially a duplication, but have to accept the Mod's decision here - I'd really prefer to allow the OP's discussion to continue, accepting that same premise.

I'd hope to see new vehicles developed which can tow caravans, ideally. Among other things affecting leisure activities, I'd hope to see a reduction in the huge amount of stuff pumped into the atmosphere by both planes and ships. That's a very big ask, and probably more than humanity at present is prepared to do - though previous generations got rid of London smog, before replacing it with less visible smog.
So for now, I'd hope to see better vehicles on the roads, and I'd like them to be more affordable otherwise most of us won't end up driving them.

Thanks for starting this one, Mickysf!

 

Cornersteady replied on 08/10/2018 17:49

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:38 by mickysf

Yes, the worlds temperatures have fluctuated, sometime dramatically, the effects of which can last for millennia and longer. Take for example the last mega volcanic phase which caused devistation to the flora and fauna of that time. This was due to the volcanic outpouring of gas and material into the upper atmosphere. The only difference today is that with little volcanic activity world wide, it's the human activity, the use of fossil fuels and other chemicals which are now being 'forced' into the atmosphere which is influencing global temperatures and possibly accelerating that natural cycle beyond that expected.

 

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:49

I thought that was Baldrick's underpants?

Hedgehurst replied on 08/10/2018 17:50

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:36 by brue

Hedgehurst. It's a "sticky" at the top of the tow car section, I've just posted a reply on there. smile

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:50

Thanks Brue.

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 17:53

Posted on 08/10/2018 16:34 by Cornersteady

none at our level, until other countries follow suit, not towing will not make any difference

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:53

True, but many decisions are being made and have been made in recent times at a national and international level based on the science of global warming and these really do influence and determine what's available to us. They also determine the choices and decisions we make about our lives and our hobby in many ways. Just look at the changes in the motor industry we witness and how that is also influencing change in leisure vehicles. Not towing? It is possibly what will be available to tow and what you will be able to tow with.

brue replied on 08/10/2018 17:56

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:28 by Cornersteady

indeed, interested but that is far different in my view from HH's request that the club should use its influence to lobby into encouraging manufacturers of leisure vehicles to move quicker into making them more suitable?  

Posted on 08/10/2018 17:56

They may well be Corners, that's why I mentioned that they are interested in future developments. smile

mickysf replied on 08/10/2018 18:16

Posted on 08/10/2018 18:16

Baldrick's pants? I bet they were not made from petro chemical based materials! But slightly related is the effects of those emissions caused by intensive meat rearing across the world, our demand for it, meat that is, and the transportation of it across the globe. May be whilst we can continue are tours we should visit those farmers' markets and local produce stores we encounter along our way.smile

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